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To: NYer

Where in the Holy Scriptures is Purgatory described, or mentioned?


6 posted on 10/26/2012 2:42:45 PM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed &water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: JimRed

You have hit the thumb on the nail. The conspicuous absence of this and other “traditions of men” promulgated by Rome is the reason the whole enterprise of Rome is a cult. The message of the Gospel of salvation by grace through faith is non-existent in the RCC.


8 posted on 10/26/2012 2:49:44 PM PDT by Dutchboy88
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To: JimRed
Frankly, after forty plus yeaqrs studying the scriptures, I cannot find it int hem. I can however find Paul's description of the 'snatching away', so the following assertion seems a bit blasphemous:

"In Purgatory, you willingly undergo the quality and quantity of pain and suffering that is uniquely prepared for you so that you may enter Heaven unblemished."

What strikes me immediately is the inference that somehow the efficacy of Christ's blood is not quite enought to cleanse from all unrighteousness! I mean, if the saved have to go to purgatory in order to be 'finished' then God's perspective on Time is limited. Whereas, The God WQho Created all has a temporal perspective which includes all of time, past, present, and future, so the inference that somehow when one is saved God can only cleanse from past sin is, in my honest opinion, blasphemous! But of course, such teachings make the Catholic Church even more powerful, almost the 'thing' God has to have in order to be 'omni'.

But the Catholic Church has been adding stuff to the Bible teachings for twenty millenia, so this is just that much more dross to be burnt away at the final judgement, where every man's deeds will be tried as if by fire.

Oddly, I've never had a Catholic, priest or otherwise, able to explain how it is that those who are alive and remain at the coming of the Lord will be'purgatoried' if they are changed in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump? If believers need Catholic purgatory in order to be made perfect enough, how does that work at the last trump, when the dead in Christ bodies rise first then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up into the clouds to meet the Returning Lord in the air, and so shall we ever be with The Lord???

9 posted on 10/26/2012 2:56:07 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: JimRed

Same place as the Internet and beer in a can.


17 posted on 10/26/2012 3:58:08 PM PDT by GalaxyAB
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To: JimRed
Where in the Holy Scriptures is Purgatory described, or mentioned?

Here

25 posted on 10/26/2012 4:46:49 PM PDT by NYer ("Before I formed you in the womb I knew you." --Jeremiah 1:5)
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To: JimRed

What do you consider to be holy scripture?


27 posted on 10/26/2012 5:25:12 PM PDT by JCBreckenridge (Texas, Texas, Whisky)
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To: JimRed
Where in the Holy Scriptures is Purgatory described, or mentioned?

What an ignorant question. You must be a Protestant.

And every man shall receive his own reward, according to his own labour. [9] For we are God's coadjutors: you are God's husbandry; you are God's building. [10] According to the grace of God that is given to me, as a wise architect, I have laid the foundation; and another buildeth thereon. But let every man take heed how he buildeth thereupon. [11] For other foundation no man can lay, but that which is laid; which is Christ Jesus. [12] Now if any man build upon this foundation, gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, stubble: [13] Every man's work shall be manifest; for the day of the Lord shall declare it, because it shall be revealed in fire; and the fire shall try every man's work, of what sort it is. [14] If any man's work abide, which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward. [15] If any man's work burn, he shall suffer loss; but he himself shall be saved, yet so as by fire. (1 Cor. 3)

31 posted on 10/26/2012 5:55:34 PM PDT by annalex (fear them not)
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To: JimRed

Nowhere - in fact, quite the opposite: Jesus said to the thieves crucified with him that they would be with him today in Heaven.


43 posted on 10/26/2012 6:51:44 PM PDT by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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To: JimRed

Today’s Gospel”

“Until you have paid the last penny.”


44 posted on 10/26/2012 6:53:47 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: JimRed
Where in the Holy Scriptures is Purgatory described, or mentioned?

ah yes...sola scriptura....if the bible doesn't say it....it isn't. The Bible does, however, condemn a variety of interpretations system where everyone gets to decide on the correct interpretation. For 1,600 years purgatory was considered pretty much a stepping stone to heaven.....but along came the revolution (note I didn't say reformation) and suddenly, lo and behold, you can walk into heaven soiled, without the state of grace, can live life as you please, as long as you claim that you are SAVED....WOW, what an easy life this would be.....Purgatory is in the bible right after ahe word "alone" introdeced by Martin Luther.

52 posted on 10/26/2012 7:25:26 PM PDT by terycarl
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To: JimRed
Assuming you read my response in #31, I have a question to you in turn.

You posted: Where in the Holy Scriptures is Purgatory described, or mentioned?

The fact is, as I showed in 31, it is described in 1 Cor 3:9-15. But why did you ask? Let is say the Church teaches some other thing never mentioned or described in the Holy Scripture; what of it? Where does this rule itself in the scripture? I know the Holy Scripture says that it is inspired by God, that it is necessary for the formation of a Christian, must not be tempered with, and that it is good to test any proposition on faith and morals against it. Where does it say that the Church MUST NOT teach anything not in it?

68 posted on 10/27/2012 10:18:45 AM PDT by annalex (fear them not)
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