What?!!! How do you know that?
If true , those who voted for abortion should be put out of the Seminary.
These seminarians reflect the average Cathholic voter rather well.
What’s the big deal here?
(Apart from the fact that many Catholics are liberals AND are going to Hell....)
Liberalism has infiltrated the church too.
How is it that you have this information?
Who was debating? What was the debate about? Was the "scoring" based on who was the better debater or which candidate the seminarians supported regardless of the debate performance? Was abortion the primary topic? Or did the seminarians get swept up in the whole "social justice" ideology while holding their noses on Obama's abortion support?
The good Cardinal needs to replace those seminary students with some of the many good Catholics who are still out here and would be interested in Holy orders.
The Church doesn’t need any more “progressive anti-life” priests! Toss out the tares and plant us some good wheat, please!
And you know this because......
A. You were squished inside the ballot box
B. You were asked to pull the lever yourself, for theses seminarians
C. The seminarians were proud to report to you their full throated opposition to the Catholic Church, the Holy Father and thir Bishop.
Unsourced post. Hearsay. Reported to the mods, and will hopefully be deleted.
PING for an Arthur McGowan thread!
Did the others vote?
How do you know this?
Although I agree with you that if they didn't vote Romney, they are acting in favor of abortion.
A lot of the social justice Catholics are pure hypocrites. I know because I have them in my family.
So as a Catholic priest yourself, what’s your solution to this problem? SSPX, leaving the Church some other way, or something else?
And here is more of that unified voice with which Rome speaks. Did this too come from the catechism?
I'm sure that at least some of the seminarians would say that they didn't vote for the anti-Christ because he favors an absolute and extreme abortion license, up to and including a little bit past the point of birth.
I'm sure that they would [lamely] make the case that they were voting for him because of his “commitment” to other “Catholic ideals,” such as feeding the poor, caring for the sick, etc., etc., etc. And against Gov. Romney because he's a fire-breathing, eat-poor-babies-and-drink-their-blood evil capitalist greedhead. Or something like that.
And the way that the Cardinal Dolan and the bishops have handled these questions, they'd be hard-pressed to make the case that these seminarians have done anything wrong.
However, we should also be careful not to denounce people for being evil when it's possible that they're merely stupid. Unrepentant evil people may often wind up in Hell, but there is no IQ requirement for getting into Heaven.
My own experience with young priests and seminarians (and not a few older priests, and even bishops) is that many of them are not necessarily the sharpest knives in the drawer. Thus, I'd chalk up part of this result that you cite as being the outcome of stupidity on the part of many.
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I think that's the correct interpretation of the data which you've presented. Who knows what they think about abortion. It's a stretch to extrapolate candidate preference to a positive choice in favor of abortion which is what your headline says.
I'm fairly certain that if you asked them, they'd say they were not pro-abortion but were looking at the "bigger picture"; i.e. Cardinal Bernardin's flawed "seamless garment" theology.
IOW, they're clueless.
Hearsay + No source = BS.
“An eyewitness” somehow gathered all that information on 52 seminarians? Really?
Not buying.
All I know for sure is that my family and I, my fellow Latin Mass parishioners, our priests, bishop and pope are all aghast and opposed to every single abortion and any other atrocity that occurs against Jesus’ precious children, born or unborn.
Dear AM,
I believe you have a problem.
It appears that you do not agree with those seminarians who voted for Obama.
It also seems like you are very uncomfortable with the reality that this seminary in NY tolerates that.
Well my friend your problem is the real estate industry would call a problem of location, location, location.
You need to give up the moral pollution of the blue state of new york for the clear air of the red states.
At least you will be appreciated.
Regards,
Lurking’
What were they voting on? Were they saying who they’d vote for in the election or were they voting on which debater did a better job? Before I complain to the rector of the seminary I’d need more information that this. It’s a matter of fairness.