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The Cult has started a new ad campaign in New York [Where the Mormon tithe & temple fits in]
ExMormonforums.com ^ | Nov. 27, 2012 | Infymus

Posted on 11/28/2012 6:00:38 PM PST by Colofornian

http://www.lds.org/church/news/mormonor ... c?lang=eng

How about being straight up and saying that Mormons put on costumes and chant rituals in secret buildings that only 10% of gross earnings paid as "tithes" allow entrance?

Mormonism wants people to think they are normal that they are just Christians like everyone else. Each year they get rid of more and more of their embarrassing doctrines - or doctrines that aren't politically correct anymore. Apologist attack dogs fight any critics on technicalities.

Mormonism has one thing that works for them - and that is the funneling of cash from members to the Cult coffers. This is done through mandatory tithe. And in order to make this tithe work - and make the member believe in the Cult enough to pay - they have to have the secret temple ceremonies. You have to put a ton of make believe in there.

Stephen R. Donaldson is one of my favorite authors. In one of his series of books he explained how a great and noble group of leaders were slowly corrupted through the centuries by simple infiltration of ideas. The ideas changed the group slowly until they went from helping people to human sacrifices. The new leaders of the group knew what was going on - but they surrounded themselves with those who only had faith - not knowledge. Those who had faith were much stronger because they were driven by the new cult. Those who held faith were much easier to control.

Pondering the story Donaldson had written I saw the same manifested in the Cult of Mormonism. If you have members who are so convinced you are the one and only true Cult, they will not hesitate to open their pocketbooks and hand over everything. Mormonism needs this kind of special, secret, garment wearing, new name, pay lay ale - in order to keep the tithes flowing. If the cat is out of the bag, the tithing will stop.

So the reality is there is a certain point where Mormonism must stop moving towards Christianity - it has to because money is ultimately the top priority of the Cult. Money - Power - Control.

Look at all the recovery boards right now - even the NOM boards. What is the #1 topic right now because of upcoming December? Tithing. Tithing. Tithing. Oh and don't forget tithing. Sign up for tithing settlement. And don't forget to sign up for tithing settlement.

“All of our messaging is focused on helping people understand that Mormons are Christian,”

Naw, Mormonism isn't a Christian church. It's a secretive Cult with very cultish practices and it has to stay that way - or go broke.


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To: Saundra Duffy; DelphiUser; Starter

Israel, Israel, God is Calling.” That was the hymn Elder Jeffrey R. Holland requested to have the congregation sing to begin the CES Devotional that was held on September 9, 2012. This was also the title of his talk.
http://mormonwoman.org/2012/09/16/elder-jeffrey-r-hollands-ces-fireside-address/


541 posted on 12/02/2012 8:00:08 AM PST by restornu (Love One Another)
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To: stuartcr; Colofornian

Thanks so much for helping to keep this thread front and center with your numerous posts. Much appreciated.


542 posted on 12/02/2012 8:00:14 AM PST by greyfoxx39 (Ann Romney "ascending to the White House was their destiny."http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics)
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Information from the

National Museum of Natural History

SMITHSONIAN INSTITUTION

WASHINGTON, D.C. 20560



Your recent inquiry concerning the Smithsonian Institution's alleged use of the Book of Mormon as a scientific guide has been received in the Smithsonian's Department of Anthropology.

The Book of Mormon is a religious document and not a scientific guide. The Smithsonian Institution has never used it in archeological research and any information that you have received to the contrary is incorrect. Accurate information about the Smithsonian's position is contained in the enclosed "Statement Regarding the Book of Mormon," which was prepared to respond to the numerous inquiries that the Smithsonian receives on this topic.

Because the Smithsonian regards the unauthorized use of its name to disseminate inaccurate information as unlawful, we would appreciate your assistance in providing us with the names of any individuals who are misusing the Smithsonian's name. Please address any correspondence to:

      Public Information Officer
      Department of Anthropology
      National Museum of Natural History
      Smithsonian Institution
      Washington, DC 20560

PREPARED BY THE DEPARTMENT OF ANTHROPOLOGY
SMITHSONIAN INSTITUTION

STATEMENT REGARDING THE BOOK OF MORMON

1. The Smithsonian Institution has never used the Book of Mormon in any way as a scientific guide. Smithsonian archeologists see no direct connection between the archeology of the New World and the subject matter of the book.

2. The physical type of the American Indian is basically Mongoloid, being most closely related to that of the peoples of eastern, central, and northeastern Asia. Archeological evidence indicates that the ancestors of the present Indians came into the New World--probably over a land bridge known to have existed in the Bering Strait region during the last Ice Age--in a continuing series of small migrations beginning from about 25,000 to 30,000 years ago.

3. Present evidence indicates that the first people to reach this continent from the East were the Norsemen who briefly visited the northeastern part of North America around A.D. 1000 and then settled in Greenland. There is nothing to show that they reached Mexico or Central America.

4. One of the main lines of evidence supporting the scientific finding that contacts with Old World civilizations, if indeed they occurred at all, were of very little significance for the development of American Indian civilizations, is the fact that none of the principal Old World domesticated food plants or animals (except the dog) occurred in the New World in pre-Columbian times. American Indians had no wheat, barley, oats, millet, rice, cattle, pigs, chickens, horses, donkeys, camels before 1492. (Camels and horses were in the Americas, along with the bison, mammoth, and mastodon, but all these animals became extinct around 10,000 B.C. at the time when the early big game hunters spread across the Americas.)

5. Iron, steel, glass, and silk were not used in the New World before 1492 (except for occasional use of unsmelted meteoric iron). Native copper was worked in various locations in pre-Columbian times, but true metallurgy was limited to southern Mexico and the Andean region, where its occurrence in late prehistoric times involved gold, silver, copper, and their alloys, but not iron.

6. There is a possibility that the spread of cultural traits across the Pacific to Mesoamerica and the northwestern coast of South America began several hundred years before the Christian era. However, any such inter-hemispheric contacts appear to have been the results of accidental voyages originating in eastern and southern Asia. It is by no means certain that even such contacts occurred; certainly there were no contacts with the ancient Egyptians, Hebrews, or other peoples of Western Asian and the Near East.

7. No reputable Egyptologist or other specialist on Old World archeology, and no expert on New World prehistory, has discovered or confirmed any relationship between archeological remains in Mexico and archeological remains in Egypt.

8. Reports of findings of ancient Egyptian, Hebrew, and other Old World writings in the New World in pre-Columbian contexts have frequently appeared in newspapers, magazines, and sensational books. None of these claims has stood up to examination by reputable scholars. No inscriptions using Old World forms of writing have been shown to hare occurred in any part of the Americas before 1492 except for a few Norse rune stones which have been found in Greenland.


543 posted on 12/02/2012 8:39:32 AM PST by greyfoxx39 (Ann Romney "ascending to the White House was their destiny."http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics)
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To: restornu
Thanks for the link, now here is what the lyricist meant when he wrote those words, according to mormon historians.

The lyricist, Richard Smyth, served three missions for the Church and often entreated new converts to “come to Zion.” At the time, all members were being encouraged to come to the Salt Lake Valley and join with the Saints.

Sorry, Zion is not Salt Lake Valley.

544 posted on 12/02/2012 9:12:51 AM PST by svcw (Why is one cell on another planet considered life, and in the womb it is not.)
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To: Normandy
I have learned through study and prayer that The Book of Mormon teaches of the very same Jesus as is preached in the New Testament.

And?

Then it appears that ONE of those two things is wrong!

545 posted on 12/02/2012 1:42:18 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: restornu
Israel, Israel, God is Calling.”

Resty, Resty:

Your second prophet is calling...


"Now if any of you will deny the plurality of wives, and continue to do so, I promise that you will be damned;

and I will go still further and say, take this revelation, or any other revelation that the Lord has given,

and deny it in your feelings, and I promise that you will be damned.

Brigham Young - JoD 3:266 (July 14, 1855)

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Sweet dreams...

546 posted on 12/02/2012 1:44:38 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: svcw
Sorry, Zion is not Salt Lake Valley.

Of COURSE not; silly wabbit!

--MormonDude(Read it for YOURSELF!!)

Here is MORMONism's own creed:
 
 

Articles of Faith

The Articles of Faith outline 13 basic points of belief of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.
The Prophet Joseph Smith first wrote them in a letter to John Wentworth, a newspaper editor,
in response to Mr. Wentworth's request to know what members of the Church believed.
They were subsequently published in Church periodicals.
They are now regarded as scripture and included in the Pearl of Great Price.

 
THE ARTICLES OF FAITH
OF THE CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST OF LATTER-DAY SAINTS
History of the Church, Vol. 4, pp. 535—541
 
 

  1. We believe in God, the Eternal Father, and in His Son, Jesus Christ, and in the Holy Ghost.
  2. We believe that men will be punished for their own sins, and not for Adam's transgression.
  3. We believe that through the Atonement of Christ, all mankind may be saved, by obedience to the laws and ordinances of the Gospel.
  4. We believe that the first principles and ordinances of the Gospel are: first, Faith in the Lord Jesus Christ; second, Repentance; third, Baptism by immersion for the remission of sins; fourth, Laying on of hands for the gift of the Holy Ghost.
  5. We believe that a man must be called of God, by prophecy, and by the laying on of hands by those who are in authority, to preach the Gospel and administer in the ordinances thereof.
  6. We believe in the same organization that existed in the Primitive Church, namely, apostles, prophets, pastors, teachers, evangelists, and so forth.
  7. We believe in the gift of tongues, prophecy, revelation, visions, healing, interpretation of tongues, and so forth.
  8. We believe the Bible to be the word of God as far as it is translated correctly; we also believe the Book of Mormon to be the word of God.
  9. We believe all that God has revealed, all that He does now reveal, and we believe that He will yet reveal many great and important things pertaining to the Kingdom of God.
  10. We believe in the literal gathering of Israel and in the restoration of the Ten Tribes; that Zion (the New Jerusalem) will be built upon the American continent; that Christ will reign personally upon the earth; and, that the earth will be renewed and receive its paradisiacal glory.
  11. We claim the privilege of worshiping Almighty God according to the dictates of our own conscience, and allow all men the same privilege, let them worship how, where, or what they may.
  12. We believe in being subject to kings, presidents, rulers, and magistrates, in obeying, honoring, and sustaining the law.
  13. We believe in being honest, true, chaste, benevolent, virtuous, and in doing good to all men; indeed, we may say that we follow the admonition of Paul—We believe all things, we hope all things, we have endured many things, and hope to be able to endure all things. If there is anything virtuous, lovely, or of good report or praiseworthy, we seek after these things.

Joseph Smith


 

547 posted on 12/02/2012 1:48:06 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie
We might be 'damned mormons'; but at least we ain't DAMNED Mormons!



548 posted on 12/02/2012 1:51:26 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: restornu


Who We Are, What We Believe, How We Live: Glimpses into LDS Life











549 posted on 12/02/2012 2:26:39 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

ugh

That’s not suggestive or unchristian at all.... yuck


550 posted on 12/02/2012 2:36:22 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: GeronL

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20100116064339AA2uNG1


551 posted on 12/02/2012 2:51:12 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Normandy

Normandy,

The Biblical Christ is eternal God. The Mormon Jesus is a creature.
They cannot be the same.

You haven’t studied enough to see that yet, apparently. I suspect that what you are studying is stuff Mormonism puts out...

AMPU


552 posted on 12/02/2012 2:53:09 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion (Gone rogue, gone Galt, gone international. Gone.)
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To: GeronL

What does it suggest?


553 posted on 12/02/2012 2:56:52 PM PST by svcw (Why is one cell on another planet considered life, and in the womb it is not.)
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To: svcw

it suggests SEX

really religious and family oriented

HOT mormon mommies in tight tight tops, breasts straining to be free. You really didn’t notice this?

The church that did that should be burned down if they think they are really Christian


554 posted on 12/02/2012 3:11:39 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: greyfoxx39

It’s one of the things I enjoy doing sometimes.


555 posted on 12/02/2012 3:11:43 PM PST by stuartcr ("Everything happens as God wants it to, otherwise, things would be different.")
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To: GeronL

ah, No. The suggestion is in the eye of the beholder.
Really, you are advocating burning down churches....that is twisted dude.


556 posted on 12/02/2012 3:21:20 PM PST by svcw (Why is one cell on another planet considered life, and in the womb it is not.)
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To: svcw

The suggestion was intended. Explicitly.

and that is NOT christian at all.


557 posted on 12/02/2012 3:27:35 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: GeronL

I disagree, however that is still not addressing the issue of you stating churches should be burned down if you don’t agree with them.


558 posted on 12/02/2012 3:46:09 PM PST by svcw (Why is one cell on another planet considered life, and in the womb it is not.)
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To: svcw

Meaning they shouldn’t call themselves a church if they are doing unchristian and undiginified things like that


559 posted on 12/02/2012 3:47:33 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: BlueDragon; Saundra Duffy

This reminds me of Dr Phil new book Life Code “Baiters”

Dr. Phil On How to Spot a Cheater
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d22VLf_gBe8


560 posted on 12/02/2012 4:31:19 PM PST by restornu (Love One Another)
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