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The Demographic that Should Keep Rove Awake at Night
Religion Dispatches ^ | Nov. 26, 2012 | Katherine Stewart

Posted on 11/30/2012 9:15:36 PM PST by filbert00

Imagine a demographic that has doubled its share of the population over the past two decades, is up by 25 percent over the past four years, and now accounts for as many as one in five Americans. Imagine that this demographic votes disproportionately for one political party—to the tune of 70 percent for Obama versus 26 percent for Romney in the 2012 election. Sounds like a demographic that ought to be of interest to politicians, journalists, and activists, right?

That demographic consists of people who describe themselves as atheist, agnostic, or religiously unaffiliated—the “nones,” as they’re sometimes called. And it hasn’t attracted anywhere near the attention it deserves in the postgame analysis of the 2012 election.

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TOPICS: Current Events; General Discusssion; Religion & Culture; Religion & Politics
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To: filbert00

I don’t understand, he admitted it at one time, why is he so ashamed of it now? This has been over a whole lifetime, not just recently.


21 posted on 11/30/2012 11:44:49 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: filbert00

Okay, in some places, Rove has called himself an agnostic, but it seems clear he was doing that for PR reasons.


22 posted on 11/30/2012 11:54:07 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: Washi
"was 2,000,000 votes less motivating than even McCain."

Not true. 2012 2008

23 posted on 12/01/2012 12:07:56 AM PST by filbert00
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To: One Name

Revelation 3:15-16 is not addressed to atheists and agnostics, but rather to believers. Jesus just a few verses later (19) says “As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten. Therefore be zealous and repent.” And in Hebrews 12:6ff “Whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth, and scourgeth every son he receiveth. If ye endure chastening, God dealeth with you as with sons; for what son is he whom the father chasteneth not? But if ye be without chastisement, where of all are partakers, then are ye bastards, and not sons.”

This 70% group that likes Obama are bastards, children of wrath not chastisement.


24 posted on 12/01/2012 2:59:54 AM PST by nonsporting
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To: Washi
Actually, the GOP vote has been increasing for 20 years:
1996   Dole     37,816,307
2000   Bush     50,459,211
2004   Bush     59,130,092
2008   McCain   59,948,323
2012   Romney   60,265,579

25 posted on 12/01/2012 3:21:30 AM PST by wildandcrazyrussian
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To: nickcarraway

The only thing Rove has an undying love for and attachment to is his bank account.


26 posted on 12/01/2012 3:34:49 AM PST by COBOL2Java (GOPe: Already prepping for their 2016 loss - Jeb Bush!)
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To: filbert00

A harvest of missionary opportunities for Christian missionaries.


27 posted on 12/01/2012 4:21:22 AM PST by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: wildandcrazyrussian; filbert00
I stand corrected, then.

My numbers came from this site:

Us election 2012: Republican recriminations as Romney gets fewer votes than McCain

With the final votes still being counted in Florida, Mr Romney had yesterday accrued 57.8 million votes to Mr Obama's 60.6 million, amid the lowest turnout in a decade.

In 2008, Mr McCain received 59.9 million votes while losing to Mr Obama. Mr Romney also attracted less support than John Kerry, who in 2004 received 59 million votes when he lost to Mr Bush.

The "With the final votes still being counted" part is likely why my numbers are wrong.

My assertion stands, however, that Rove is not conservative, he cultivates and promotes non-conservative candidates, and that those candidates will never engender enough conservative enthusiasm to win an election.

28 posted on 12/01/2012 8:28:14 AM PST by Washi
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To: filbert00

Lumping “religiously unaffiliated” with “atheist” is an incredibly dishonest ploy.

It’s like lumping all “independents” with “socialists”.

A person who is religiously unaffiliated would say he is an atheist if that is what he is.


29 posted on 12/01/2012 11:03:53 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: filbert00

lying with statistics, of course.

First, she assumes everyone without a church doesn’t believe in a deity

Then she assumes that those who never thought about these things but watch all the trendy atheist type stuff are atheists

Then she assumes that all agnostics or people who have questions if God exists or those in a crisis of faith are atheists

Finally, she assumes that no one changes their mind.

Technically, the number of actual atheists hasn’t increased much: most are in the other categories.


30 posted on 12/01/2012 5:42:30 PM PST by LadyDoc
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To: Washi
Grow up. It's time to put away this foolishness. The GOP elite did not force Romney down anyone's throat and even if they did, Romney is far superior to Obama.

It is also false that Romney got 2,000,000 votes less than McCain. IIRC, at last count, Romney actually has more than McCain so be accurate.

Why do you fear Jeb Bush--just don't vote for him. No one is going to go into a voting booth and hold a gun to your head to made sure you vote Bush. This irrational behavior here on FR has got to stop. We have a job to do and that is to try to save our country BUT I fear it may be too late. Too many here on FR have more fun trying to be perpetual victims and whine, whine, whine.

Maybe it's time to start thinking about who you want next and don't worry about the GOPe because they're not a factor. You can support anyone you want.

31 posted on 12/01/2012 5:56:04 PM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: Washi
"According to the National Popular Vote Tracker, Governor Romney garnered 59,979,858 votes this election cycled compared to Senator McCain in 2008 who picked up 59,948,323 votes. President Barack Obama, on the other hand, dropped about 5.5 million votes behind his 2008 total to 64,005,851 this year. "

From the Washington TImes.

32 posted on 12/01/2012 6:00:28 PM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...
Note: this topic is from 11/30/2012.
That demographic consists of people who describe themselves as atheist, agnostic, or religiously unaffiliated -- the "nones," as they’re sometimes called. And it hasn’t attracted anywhere near the attention it deserves in the postgame analysis of the 2012 election.
Thanks filbert00.

33 posted on 02/06/2013 7:15:18 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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