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Who is the Harlot AND Her Daughters?
12/3/2012 | self

Posted on 12/03/2012 2:15:56 AM PST by DouglasKC

Question: In the passages below a harlot symbolizes something. The title on her head is "MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND OF THE ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH." One of the titles is "the mother of harlots". This suggests that there are other harlots that have sprung from this harlot.

This is more curiosity then anything else...but what are opinions on what this represents?

Rev 17:1 Then one of the seven angels who had the seven bowls came and talked with me, saying to me, "Come, I will show you the judgment of the great harlot who sits on many waters,
Rev 17:2 with whom the kings of the earth committed fornication, and the inhabitants of the earth were made drunk with the wine of her fornication."
Rev 17:3 So he carried me away in the Spirit into the wilderness. And I saw a woman sitting on a scarlet beast which was full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns.
Rev 17:4 The woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet, and adorned with gold and precious stones and pearls, having in her hand a golden cup full of abominations and the filthiness of her fornication.
Rev 17:5 And on her forehead a name was written: MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND OF THE ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.
Rev 17:6 I saw the woman, drunk with the blood of the saints and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus. And when I saw her, I marveled with great amazement.
Rev 17:7 But the angel said to me, "Why did you marvel? I will tell you the mystery of the woman and of the beast that carries her, which has the seven heads and the ten horns.
Rev 17:8 The beast that you saw was, and is not, and will ascend out of the bottomless pit and go to perdition. And those who dwell on the earth will marvel, whose names are not written in the Book of Life from the foundation of the world, when they see the beast that was, and is not, and yet is.
Rev 17:9 "Here is the mind which has wisdom: The seven heads are seven mountains on which the woman sits.
Rev 17:10 There are also seven kings. Five have fallen, one is, and the other has not yet come. And when he comes, he must continue a short time.
Rev 17:11 The beast that was, and is not, is himself also the eighth, and is of the seven, and is going to perdition.
Rev 17:12 "The ten horns which you saw are ten kings who have received no kingdom as yet, but they receive authority for one hour as kings with the beast.
Rev 17:13 These are of one mind, and they will give their power and authority to the beast.
Rev 17:14 These will make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb will overcome them, for He is Lord of lords and King of kings; and those who are with Him are called, chosen, and faithful."


TOPICS: Ecumenism; General Discusssion; History
KEYWORDS: 666; christian; harlot; herbertwarmstrong; revelation; worldwidechurchofgod
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To: jacknhoo

81 posted on 12/03/2012 8:17:28 AM PST by Cronos (**Marriage is about commitment, cohabitation is about convenience.**)
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To: DouglasKC

The root word for Mystery is knowledge. The root word for Babylon is knowledge. The tower of Babylon was the tower of knowledge. The foretold one-world religion will be based upon knowledge, a worshipping of that knowledge. The root word for science is... knowledge. The root word for technology is... knowledge. Scientism & technology are the nascent one-world religion of Mystery Babylon.


82 posted on 12/03/2012 8:19:04 AM PST by Kevmo ("A person's a person, no matter how small" ~Horton Hears a Who)
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To: DouglasKC

The Kardashians?


83 posted on 12/03/2012 8:19:05 AM PST by Sideshow Bob
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To: DouglasKC

Bookmark.


84 posted on 12/03/2012 8:27:30 AM PST by Jane Long (Philippians 2:11)
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To: Hardraade

Sandra Fluke?


85 posted on 12/03/2012 8:28:34 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: Cronos

“Most of us think....”

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Exactly the problem. Especially with you. One of FR’s biggest Catholic boasters.

IF there were “at least 12 posts a day” back in 2011, they were replies to the flame wars YOU and others were posting against “proddies”.

Where were you the other day when a good baptist boy sincerely posted a thread politely asking questions regarding Catholic practices? Evidently the heat (truth) got a little too hot and that “anti-Catholic” thread (huge sarcasm here) got deleted. This happens ALL THE TIME.

Look. The obvious truth is that Jim Rob and his religion moderators are Catholic. and as such... this is a pro-Catholic site.

Feel smug about it. Bash some Mormons also. I don’t mind. Just don’t re-fabricate the truth.


86 posted on 12/03/2012 8:30:31 AM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: G Larry
That ain’t “Rapture”!
That is the Second Coming of Christ.

Rapture was invented in the 1800’s.


It seems to me during the Second Coming of Christ, that He would set foot on earth rather than meeting the dead in Christ and remaining believers "in the clouds". The Second Coming of Christ is spoken of in greatest detail in Revelation 19:11-16, “I saw heaven standing open and there before me was a white horse, whose rider is called Faithful and True. With justice he judges and makes war. His eyes are like blazing fire, and on his head are many crowns. He has a name written on him that no one knows but he himself. He is dressed in a robe dipped in blood, and his name is the Word of God. The armies of heaven were following him, riding on white horses and dressed in fine linen, white and clean. Out of his mouth comes a sharp sword with which to strike down the nations. ‘He will rule them with an iron scepter.’ He treads the winepress of the fury of the wrath of God Almighty. On his robe and on his thigh he has this name written: KING OF KINGS AND LORD OF LORDS.”

This is the Battle of Armageddon. The final battle in the Valley of Megiddo. But I wouldn't expect a Catholic to know this stuff, because I too was once a Catholic and know for a fact that the Bible is alien to most of them.
87 posted on 12/03/2012 8:31:29 AM PST by crosshairs (Hurricane Barry is 1000 times more destructive than Hurricane Sandy.)
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To: DouglasKC

Mostly the long standing churches.

The Harlot is the Vatican, and the Daughters are most of the rest. Any ‘church’ that accepts good friday as the date of the crucifixion.


88 posted on 12/03/2012 8:34:15 AM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Syncro

Hey Clown!

Can you site a Protestant authored book on the subject of Reveleations, that does not bash the Catholic Church?


89 posted on 12/03/2012 8:43:54 AM PST by G Larry (Which of Obama's policies do you think I'd support if he were white?)
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To: xzins

Scott Hann is a convert to the Catholic Church and wrote “The Lamb’s Supper” AFTER his conversion.

Thus, it is NOT authored from a Protestant perspective.

What have you authored?


90 posted on 12/03/2012 8:46:54 AM PST by G Larry (Which of Obama's policies do you think I'd support if he were white?)
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To: crosshairs

The problem with your assertion is that you site a passage in scripture, and then insert your opinion as to what it is, or what it refers to.

This has nothing to do with your aleged superior knowledge of Scripture.

Your presumption that as a Catholic, I’m unfamiliar with Scripture, simply reveals your bias.


91 posted on 12/03/2012 8:51:56 AM PST by G Larry (Which of Obama's policies do you think I'd support if he were white?)
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To: Responsibility2nd
Look. The obvious truth is that Jim Rob and his religion moderators are Catholic. and as such... this is a pro-Catholic site.

maniacal laughter

92 posted on 12/03/2012 8:55:55 AM PST by Alex Murphy ("If you are not firm in faith, you will not be firm at all" - Isaiah 7:9)
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To: Dr. Thorne

“Prayer” is an analogical term.

People “pray for relief” in a lawsuit. They aren’t worshiping the court or the judge.

People “pray” to God for various reasons: Adoration, contrition, thanksgiving, and supplication.

People “pray” to Mary and other saints in order to give her DUE HONOR—i.e., NOT adoration. They also “pray” to Mary in order to ask for her intercession with Jesus. Exactly as they would ask a next-door neighbor to pray.

In other words, for the ten-trillionth time, CATHOLICS DO NOT WORSHIP MARY OR THE SAINTS.

Or do you think that Catholics SECRETLY worship Mary, and just try to cover this fact up by denying it in EVERY CATHOLIC CATECHISM AND CATHOLIC THEOLOGY TEXTBOOK EVER PUBLISHED?


93 posted on 12/03/2012 8:57:11 AM PST by Arthur McGowan (If you're FOR sticking scissors in a baby girl's neck and sucking out her brains, you are PRO-WOMAN!)
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To: DouglasKC

After looking at all the posts here I am tempted to accept the Eastern Orthodox position on Revelation. ;-D


94 posted on 12/03/2012 8:58:40 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (The parasites now outnumber the producers.)
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To: G Larry; crosshairs
Your presumption that as a Catholic, I’m unfamiliar with Scripture, simply reveals your bias.

What does a presumption based on "20 books on a bookshelf" reveal?

95 posted on 12/03/2012 8:58:52 AM PST by Alex Murphy ("If you are not firm in faith, you will not be firm at all" - Isaiah 7:9)
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To: Dr. Thorne

This was written about the old Rome.

Are you familiar with the layout of Rome?

The Vatican is not one of the seven hills — they are on the other side of the Tiber. I seem to remember this from one of my Scrpture studies on the book of Revelation.


96 posted on 12/03/2012 8:59:48 AM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Alex Murphy

Mostly, your ignorance!

I have reviewed many more than those 20, which only serve as an example.

Thus, my assertion, is base upon a much larger sampling, that the “presumption” you assigned as my basis.

Have you located a Protestant author that does not bash the Catholic Church in the course of their presentation of Revelations?

These critiques of my assertion are mere smoke, without foundation.


97 posted on 12/03/2012 9:05:43 AM PST by G Larry (Which of Obama's policies do you think I'd support if he were white?)
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To: G Larry
Why should I when you have 20 of them?


I'll have a better answer as soon as I am off of the phone. The Vatican called.

98 posted on 12/03/2012 9:05:43 AM PST by Syncro (The Tea Party is Dead-->MSM/Dems/GOP-e -- LONG LIVE THE TEA PARTY!)
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To: Just mythoughts
Yep, Gog and Magog

Don't forget Islam.

99 posted on 12/03/2012 9:08:12 AM PST by Syncro (The Tea Party is Dead-->MSM/Dems/GOP-e -- LONG LIVE THE TEA PARTY!)
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To: Just mythoughts
Yep, Gog and Magog

Don't forget Islam.

100 posted on 12/03/2012 9:08:47 AM PST by Syncro (The Tea Party is Dead-->MSM/Dems/GOP-e -- LONG LIVE THE TEA PARTY!)
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