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1 posted on 01/20/2013 9:42:53 AM PST by NYer
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2 posted on 01/20/2013 9:43:37 AM PST by NYer ("Before I formed you in the womb I knew you." --Jeremiah 1:5)
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I find it interesting that Jesus rebuked her (which seems to be his way whenever a specific encounter between them takes place) but obeys her.


3 posted on 01/20/2013 10:04:37 AM PST by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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I have never seen more eisogesis used in one article than in this one... wow! It renders it made up out of whole cloth.


4 posted on 01/20/2013 10:15:19 AM PST by aMorePerfectUnion (Gone rogue, gone Galt, gone international. Gone.)
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Thank you. The older I get, the more I appreciate how our faith honors all biblical figures. That culture is what maintains a respect within real Catholic families, no matter how low the worldly culture becomes, we instinctively understand God’s order of things.

We live in a world where Laga Gaga, Madonna, and endless other females that are offensive to God are held up as ideal women to our impressionable little girls. God certainly knew what He was doing in giving our families the gift of The Madonna and Child. I have always found that those with a special devotion to the Blessed Mother, truly adore Jesus and keep Him in their hearts.

I have 5 children because I was taught to trust in God like Mary did. The world could have easily led me astray, childless, divorced, dedicated to my career, or some other meaningless cause. Thank you God for saving a wretch like me, and for all the beautiful gifts you have given our church. We adore you!


7 posted on 01/20/2013 10:28:09 AM PST by mgist
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Jesus tells Mary, "My time has not yet come."

Interesting that he also says the same thing to his brothers later in Chapter 7 when they urge him to go to Jerusalem for the Feast.

But in Ch. 2 and 7 he does both anyway.

What's this to mean? That his Mother and brothers knew better than Jesus?

No. Rather it's likely that he had to correct them that his "time" would not be until his death on the cross. They were pushing him to take a leadership position on earth; he was telling them that his leadership would not really transpire until his death on the cross. He did the works they asked him to but they were erroneous as to the meaning of his work.

9 posted on 01/20/2013 10:53:43 AM PST by what's up
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I am glad I saw this post. Very good reading and discussion this Sunday.
Thanks.
14 posted on 01/20/2013 12:06:27 PM PST by imjustme
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Thus Mary models prayer for us. What wine are you lacking now? What wine do your children and grandchildren lack? Do you notice your needs and the needs of others and consistently pray? Or does it take things getting critical for you to notice or pray? And when you pray do you go to the Lord with trust or an agenda?

I liked this part.

23 posted on 01/20/2013 1:39:49 PM PST by Tax-chick (Viva Cristo Rey! Viva la Virgen de Guadalupe!)
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The Title of Mary - Jesus calls her “Woman.” In Jewish culture a man could well respectfully call a woman “Woman,” but it was unheard of for a son to call his mother “Woman.” Hence this text stands out as unusual and signals us that Jesus is speaking at a deeper level here. ...So far from being disrespectful to Mary, Jesus is actually exulting her

Hmmmmmm.....

It never ceases to amaze me how Catholics can take something so innocent and make it into something it's not. Our Lord referred to many other people as "Woman" besides Mary. If anything, rather than "exulting" her, He was equating her the same status as the woman at the well, the prostitute, and the woman who lost her son.
30 posted on 01/20/2013 2:33:16 PM PST by HarleyD
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