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Speculation mounts on who will be next pope
Fox News ^ | February 11, 2013 | Joshua Rhett Miller

Posted on 02/11/2013 12:06:45 PM PST by Alex Murphy

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To: apillar
The prophecy says the next pope will be Peter the Roman...not the roamin' peter....

Now that's funny! I don't care who you are!

61 posted on 02/11/2013 2:23:30 PM PST by pgkdan ( "Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not." ~Thomas Jefferson)
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To: MeOnTheBeach
Could you explain your analogy?

You claim that the Catholic Church is at odds with the Bible.

Yet your own knowledge of the Bible is extremely shaky (for example, your failure to recall that both Samuel and David, among other leaders of God's people, retired before death).

Therefore your view that you can stand in judgment over the Church in matters of Scripture, when your own knowledge of the Scriptures is fairly exiguous, shows that you are dwelling in a proverbial glass house.

62 posted on 02/11/2013 2:23:50 PM PST by wideawake
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To: Lee N. Field
They had their reasons

And all of their reasons, examined in the light of day, were laughably ill-founded.

But, much to the profit of the promoters of the Westminster Confession, they were highly self-serving.

63 posted on 02/11/2013 2:27:01 PM PST by wideawake
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To: MeOnTheBeach

“History is the Catholic Churches biggest critic for their claims of divine guidance or authorship. Well... that and nearly the entire Bible.”

There are those who lack the Grace to see Truth. This is true.


64 posted on 02/11/2013 2:27:33 PM PST by rbmillerjr (We have No Opposition to Obama's Socialist Agenda)
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To: FatherofFive
Charles Chaput. Native American. Archbishop but not a Cardinal. I wish I had a vote!

Actually I wish you had a lot more than one vote. Don't forget you don't have to be a Cardinal to be elected. Celestine V was a monk when elected.

65 posted on 02/11/2013 2:30:07 PM PST by verga (A nation divided by Zero!)
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To: MeOnTheBeach

My guess is he is getting senile, maybe Alzheimer’s. If he had a terminal illness he would just let it run its course and have a new successor. If he was just frail, then he would cut back on touring.

I fear he’s losing his mental faculties, and doesn’t want to linger on for years not even knowing who he is, leaving the Church paralyzed.

Just a guess as to why he would do such an unusual thing.


66 posted on 02/11/2013 2:30:56 PM PST by Shadow44
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To: Alex Murphy

I think St. Malachy called this one “early” for Peter the Roman (ie Turkson).


67 posted on 02/11/2013 2:31:46 PM PST by XenaLee (The only good commie is a dead commie.)
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68 posted on 02/11/2013 2:33:51 PM PST by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: XenaLee

Putting aside the fact that there is zero evidence Malachy even wrote the supposed prophecies of Malachy, there has already been a Pope whose birth name was Peter and who was actually born and raised in Rome.


69 posted on 02/11/2013 2:47:46 PM PST by wideawake
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To: Cicero
I don’t think the Protestants and the other non-Catholics realize that this ain’t no joking matter. If we’re going to pull Western civilization out of the gutter it’s sinking into, it will be very important to have a strong, conservative, faithful Pope....If half the Catholics in this country voted for Obama, it’s because they have been poorly led and poorly instructed for the past 40 years or so. There was steady movement in the Church from the Democrat party...to the Republican party, owing mainly to Roe v. Wade and the movement of Democrat politicians toward all kinds of anti-Christian positions. But that movement has slowed, I think. We desperately need better leadership....

"Steady movement into the Republican Party"? What about the movement away from freedom and liberty and constitutionality that we've seen over the course of multiple elections, even in the Republican Party? If someone claims that Catholics have become more Republican over the last forty years, then we can either give them credit for the sorry mess the Republican Party is in, or we castigate them for being attracted to it.

And on the subject of laughing matters, if there's something ridiculous to laugh at, it'll continue to get laughs - so long as I'm on watch.

70 posted on 02/11/2013 2:52:10 PM PST by Alex Murphy ("If you are not firm in faith, you will not be firm at all" - Isaiah 7:9)
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To: Revolting cat!

That’s the most mixed metaphors in one sentence that I’ve seen in awhile. Good job!


71 posted on 02/11/2013 3:04:50 PM PST by married21
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To: MeOnTheBeach
History is the Catholic Churches biggest critic for their claims of divine guidance or authorship. Well... that and nearly the entire Bible.

Huh? What Bible do you read? Unfortunately, your definition of ‘the church’ cannot be true, unless Christ is a liar. Look at the Church in context of Scripture.

“Ye are the light of the world. A city that is set on an hill cannot be hid. Neither do men light a candle, and put it under a bushel, but on a candlestick; and it giveth light unto all that are in the house. Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven.” Mat 5:14-15

So here Christ says His Church will be visible.

“Careful to keep the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace. One body and one Spirit: as you are called in one hope of your calling. One Lord, one faith, one baptism.” Eph 4:3-5

The Church is to be one, not many. “And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.” Mat 6:18

Here Christ says his Church will not be destroyed.

“I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now. Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.” John 16:12-13

“But if I tarry long, that thou mayest know how thou oughtest to behave thyself in the house of God, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and foundation of the truth.” 1Tim 3:15

Here Christ says, and Paul reaffirms, that the Church will always teach the TRUTH.

Then Jesus came to them and said, "All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age."Mat 28:18-20

Again, here Jesus assures us that He is always with us, to the very end.

So Christ says His Church will not be destroyed or fall away from him, that the Holy Spirit will guide the Church to always teach the Truth, and He will always be with us. The Church is much more than a collection of nice people who read a Bible and believe anything they want.

72 posted on 02/11/2013 3:18:36 PM PST by FatherofFive (Islam is evil and must be eradicated)
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To: Shadow44

It would not surprise me that it could be because after seeing how Blessed John Paul II suffered bigtime from both age and ill health while doing his duties as Pope, Pope B16 felt he could not subject the Church once again to another aging and suffering Pope.

Plus having written 3 best selling books about Jesus must having its toll also on him.


73 posted on 02/11/2013 3:40:47 PM PST by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: MeOnTheBeach; Alex Murphy
The Holy Spirit is always involved. The media will treat this like a political contest, because that's all they care for.

Nobody was betting on Karol Wojtyla back in 1978.

Nobnody would have bet a dime on Josef Ratzinger in 2005. (I was astounded: "What??" - too good to be true.)

So, since nobody's mentioning him, and as an American his chances are close to zero, let me say I want Card. Raymond Burke. Wonderful Canon Law expert, head of the Signatura, holy, prayerful, devoted to the defense of doctrine and the purity of religious life, Wants to precent manifest defiant unrepentant sinners (like pro-abort Catholic politicians.) from desecrating the Eucharist by unworthy reception. Go for it, Big Ray.

Veni Sancte Spiritu.

74 posted on 02/11/2013 3:49:29 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o (May the Lord bless you and keep you, may He turn to you His countenance and give you peace.)
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To: Revolting cat!

Ah! The clashing of symbols!”


75 posted on 02/11/2013 3:52:49 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o (May the Lord bless you and keep you, may He turn to you His countenance and give you peace.)
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To: Alex Murphy
Let's try again. Maybe I can do this 'cuz I'm a Catholic. I'll make it a little smaller.


76 posted on 02/11/2013 3:57:52 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o (May the Lord bless you and keep you, may He turn to you His countenance and give you peace.)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin; verga
A pope, an American president and an English Lady brought down the Soviet Union.

Pope and Reagan photo pope-and-reagan-733624.jpg

77 posted on 02/11/2013 4:04:44 PM PST by FatherofFive (Islam is evil and must be eradicated)
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To: MeOnTheBeach

As a born & bred conservative Evangelical Protestant, trained in Evangelical colleges, I find your snide, arrogant anti-Catholic rant to be offensive and displaying an ignorance of both church history and the Catholic Church.


78 posted on 02/11/2013 4:08:07 PM PST by tjd1454
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To: MeOnTheBeach; wideawake
I'm not sure that he Bible makes a distinction between "secular" and "sacred." Men were anointed Priest, Prophet or King, --- all of them in a sacred capacity --- as they were to do God's work offering sacrifices, teaching, and ruling God's people.

So yeah, Samuel appointing his sons as prophets in his old age, and David Solopassing on the kingship to Solomon, count as examples of men chosen by God who passed on their leadership to other, younger men at some point before they actually died.

79 posted on 02/11/2013 4:11:18 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o (May the Lord bless you and keep you, may He turn to you His countenance and give you peace.)
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To: wideawake

“The Gospels came from the Catholic Church, not the Church from the Gospels” ~ Archbishop Fulton J. Sheen


80 posted on 02/11/2013 4:51:25 PM PST by NKP_Vet
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