Posted on 02/28/2013 6:52:42 AM PST by Gamecock
I count four question marks (and it appears there should be a fifth), yet you mentioned "a question" and "two questions". What is your concern exactly?
Tragic that no one ever explained the Gospel to pJPII. Sentimental stories such as this don't comport with the Scriptural message. As such, we continue to call to the RCs who believe Rome's error to come out of her, into the light of Jesus, alone. Swim the Tiber (the other direction) and find rescue...if He permits.
It’s rather simple really. If we have to do something to obtain salvation it’s no longer grace is it.
Amen to that. It’s amazing to me that the organized religions that resulted from the split with Rome are still making some of the same mistakes as the RCC.
LOL Isn’t it interesting that even one step away from “believe on the Lord Jesus and you will be saved – and your house” begins to risk error?
The Gospel of the kingdom and the Gospel of the Circumcision are based on covenants GOd made with the Jews. Both were bound up with ordinances and signs. Circumcision was the sign of the Abrahamic COvenant (Gen. 17:11). And water baptism was the sign of the Davidic Covenant (Ex. 29:4, cf. Ex. 19:5,6, Isa. 61:6, Matt. 3:1-6). But WE are gentiles, STRANGERS FROM THE COVENANTS. (Eph. 2:12). We are in the "But NOW" of GOd's plan. If we are strangers from the covenants, are we supposed to keep them? Whether it be circumcision, water baptism, dietary rules, etc. Water baptism can NOT be the One Baptism Paul writes of for us today. "For BY ONE SPIRIT are we all baptized INTO ONE BODY.,.."1 Cor. 12:13. Not physically, Spiritually. Just like we are circumcised by the Holy Spirit. Not physically, Spiritually. THAT is the One Baptism of the dispensation of the grace of God.
Unless a person still desires to be Israel today. WHereby he would be circumsised in fullfillment of the Davidic Covenant and water baptized in fullfullment of the Abrahamic COvenant. Of course, it would do no good, since Israel is now blinded and set aside and God is dealing with individuals, not nations, on an equal basis.
Because when they believe they serve the same god as the Muslims and the Holy Spirit isn’t within to guide there is only human understanding. The Pope doesn’t even understand the evil contained in the Quran.
Therein lies part of the problem. The RCC believes Christians have replaced Israel. Many of the organized religions since the split with Rome have followed that line of thinking. I doubt seriously if many of the organized religions of today understand the difference.
AMEN, CB. AMEN.
If we are going to truly hold to Sola Scriptura as the rule of our faith we need to diminish the status of these creeds and confessions.
THANK YOU!!!!!!
Salvation is by faith in Christ and one's spiritual growth and maturity are the work of the Holy Spirit evidenced by the fruit of the Spirit being displayed in one's life, not evidenced by adherence to confessions, creeds, tongues, or any other man established criteria.
You can do whatever you wish as far as creeds of course. The great majority of Christians use them to differentiate their beliefs from others.
The original creeds were to define the Christian faith regarding who Christ is and the Most Holy Trinity - as differentiated from the various heresies. Some of these beliefs concerning Christ and the Trinity crop up again, even today. Those who hold them have problems with the creed; those that don’t, don’t.
Ironically, Sola scriptura is a man-made creed.
It’s not biblical, and no Christian held this belief prior to Luther.
On top of that, a fallible Church makes the Scriptures Luther inherited dubious.
The doctrine is completely incoherent.
OK. Print it out. The Nicene Creed and Apostles Creed can be found by a google search. Show us the Sola Scriptura Creed.
Jesus established it when He said *It is written......*.
John 8:47 Whoever is of God hears the words of God. The reason why you do not hear them is that you are not of God.”
John 12:48 The one who rejects me and does not receive my words has a judge; the word that I have spoken will judge him on the last day.
John 14:23-24 Jesus answered him, “If anyone loves me, he will keep my word, and my Father will love him, and we will come to him and make our home with him. Whoever does not love me does not keep my words. And the word that you hear is not mine but the Father's who sent me.
John 17:17 Sanctify them in the truth; your word is truth.
Romans 10:17 So faith comes from hearing, and hearing through the word of Christ.
2 Corinthians 4:2 But we have renounced disgraceful, underhanded ways. We refuse to practice cunning or to tamper with God's word, but by the open statement of the truth we would commend ourselves to everyone's conscience in the sight of God.
Ephesians 6:17 .. and take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God,...
Hebrews 4:12 For the word of God is living and active, sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing to the division of soul and of spirit, of joints and of marrow, and discerning the thoughts and intentions of the heart.
God's word is truth. Why isn't the very words of God enough that Catholics feel the need to add to them and to disparage and down play them and say they aren't good enough?
God's very words to us aren't good enough? Really?
I realize that you probably desperately want that to be tied together and true. It’s amazing isn’t it that so many were proclaimed saved during Jesus and the Apostles times long before any of the so called “creeds” were thought of?
So making scripture the sole source for the truth of what someone is teaching started with Luther you say?
Acts 17:11 These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so.
Is there no common agreement on what sola scriptura means? Different individuals adhere to sola scripture in individual ways?
The faith in the creeds was known and taught by Jesus and the Apostles before they were written in the councils. That’s what makes ‘em creeds.
The majority of non-Catholics have followed them since their beginning; others rephrase them in their own particular confession.
You’re welcome to have your own creed of course.
Why on earth, then, are you adding to them in your post?
So; if we can get enough folks voting on it; the MAJORITY says it becomes the TRUTH forever...
(And now we have Obama...)
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