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Pastor Mike Hoggard of Bethel Church - A LIAR and FALSE PROPHET!
ConstitutionallySpeaking ^ | March 10, 2013 | ConstitutionallySpeaking

Posted on 03/10/2013 11:58:35 AM PDT by patlin

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1 posted on 03/10/2013 11:58:35 AM PDT by patlin
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To: patlin

Hope your flame suit is handy...


2 posted on 03/10/2013 12:06:33 PM PDT by STYRO (War sucks. Living in slavery sucks even worse.)
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To: STYRO

Ready and armed!!!


3 posted on 03/10/2013 12:07:27 PM PDT by patlin ("Knowledge is a powerful source that is 2nd to none but God" ConstitutionallySpeaking 2011)
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To: patlin

You speak the truth like that and many, if not most, christians in the US will disagree with you.


4 posted on 03/10/2013 12:09:25 PM PDT by STYRO (War sucks. Living in slavery sucks even worse.)
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To: STYRO

That is the point. To expose the truth of the “strong delusion” that surrounds us.

2Th 2:10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
2Th 2:11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
2Th 2:12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

2Co 11:10 As the truth of Christ is in me, no man shall stop me of this boasting in the regions of Achaia.
2Co 11:11 Wherefore? because I love you not? God knoweth.
2Co 11:12 But what I do, that I will do, that I may cut off occasion from them which desire occasion; that wherein they glory, they may be found even as we.
2Co 11:13 For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ.
2Co 11:14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.
2Co 11:15 Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.


5 posted on 03/10/2013 12:16:54 PM PDT by patlin ("Knowledge is a powerful source that is 2nd to none but God" ConstitutionallySpeaking 2011)
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To: patlin

Worship on Saturday or go to hell? It’s not like that’s a novel claim.

Welcome to the world of legalism. Do women have to wear head coverings?


6 posted on 03/10/2013 12:25:39 PM PDT by delacoert
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To: patlin

Ping for later


7 posted on 03/10/2013 12:33:04 PM PDT by Alex Murphy ("If you are not firm in faith, you will not be firm at all" - Isaiah 7:9)
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To: patlin

It would be awesome if this article contained a statement that makes it clear what this guy’s beef is with Hoggard, whom I’ve never heard of.


8 posted on 03/10/2013 12:35:37 PM PDT by ChocChipCookie
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To: delacoert
I'm not here to judge or to convert like some are. I am merely here to let Him, God, speak His truth with the power of His Word that put on flesh.

Messiah is the ONLY head covering one needs so you can dispense with the sarcasm as it will not work on me.

9 posted on 03/10/2013 12:36:13 PM PDT by patlin ("Knowledge is a powerful source that is 2nd to none but God" ConstitutionallySpeaking 2011)
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To: ChocChipCookie

Aee March 5th radio broadcast archive

http://www.sasolo.com/search.asp?sortby=added&sourceonly=true&currSection=sermonssource&keyword=bethel&subsetcat=series&subsetitem=Pastor+Mike+Online+Archives


10 posted on 03/10/2013 12:40:46 PM PDT by patlin ("Knowledge is a powerful source that is 2nd to none but God" ConstitutionallySpeaking 2011)
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Here is an analysis of the Sabbath that conforms to my personal view. http://www.apostolic.edu/biblestudy/files/4th-com.htm
11 posted on 03/10/2013 12:48:29 PM PDT by SubMareener (Save us from Quarterly Freepathons! Become a MONTHLY DONOR!)
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To: ChocChipCookie

So, you mean to tell me that you are going to act like you did not know that was the Anti-Mike Hoggard Freerepublic.com thread?


12 posted on 03/10/2013 12:50:54 PM PDT by job
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To: patlin

Here is a novel idea..

talk to the people who not only wrote the bible, but have studied it for over 2 millenium..

Talk to a Catholic Priest...


13 posted on 03/10/2013 1:23:10 PM PDT by joe fonebone (The clueless... they walk among us, and they vote...)
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My father grew up on a farm in Eastern Ontario early in the last century (Born 1898). His mother would prepare their Sunday meals on Saturday because they believed that no work should be done on the Sunday Sabbath. As you posted this article on Sunday, would this not be considered as 'work'?

In the Sermon on the Mount, Jesus shows us that keeping The Ten Commandments is impossible because of our sin nature. In Matthew 5:48, Jesus says, "Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect." Is this possible? We cannot live perfectly according to these laws of our own volition. We can strive for this, but we will fail, without absolute dependence on, and surrender to the Holy Spirit, but I do not believe that we are capable of such dependence at ALL TIMES. After all, Paul writes in Romans 7:19, "For the good that I would I do not: but the evil which I would not, that I do.", so even he fails! Remember, even Peter denied the Lord three times, breaking the ninth commandment thrice, before His crucifixion!

All that we can do is to learn to live more closely to His Will through discerning the Holy Spirit and more importantly, heeding and yielding to what the Holy Spirit says. We are Christians, we are not Christ, but we do need to grow in our Christ-likeness.

14 posted on 03/10/2013 1:24:24 PM PDT by A Formerly Proud Canadian (I once was lost but now I'm found; blind but now I see.)
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Darn it. I can’t find the word Saturday in the Bible.


15 posted on 03/10/2013 1:28:18 PM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: SubMareener

Pro 14:12 There is a way which seems right to a man, But its end is the way of death1. Footnote: 1See 16:25.

2Ti 4:2 Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.
2Ti 4:3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears,1 Footnote: 1Isa. 30:10, Jer. 5:31, Rom. 16:18.
2Ti 4:4 And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables

Jesus didn’t choose which day to rest and He never taught that after He died and resurrected that it would be ok for us to do what we think is right regardless of what the Father says. Jesus taught that we are all, including Him, subject to the ‘will of the Father’.

Rom 6:16 Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness?
Rom 6:17 But God be thanked, that ye were the servants of sin, but ye have obeyed from the heart that form of doctrine which was delivered you.
Rom 6:18 Being then made free from sin, ye became the servants of righteousness.


16 posted on 03/10/2013 1:31:02 PM PDT by patlin ("Knowledge is a powerful source that is 2nd to none but God" ConstitutionallySpeaking 2011)
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To: joe fonebone
I have and he confirmed that everything I had been following was the doctrines and traditions of men who claim to have been given authority to change the Word of God when God has said nothing of the sort but warned us against listening to and following such men.
17 posted on 03/10/2013 1:32:54 PM PDT by patlin ("Knowledge is a powerful source that is 2nd to none but God" ConstitutionallySpeaking 2011)
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I guess you better not shuck and eat corn on the Sabbath then...then again an all day fast(fasting might be considered a ‘work’ done on the Sabbath) never hurt anyone...oh and no water! I’ll get your cow out of the ditch for you if I can keep half of it for my freezer!

Hey, I guess all males should be circumcised, right...that is if they want to be “following all of Christ’s commandments”!

I agree about the “pastor” in question, he certainly sounds bizarre. Paul never did say not to keep the Sabbath, he just states that “some may esteem one day more than others” but that wasn’t something to get in a quibble over. Some have stronger faith and some have weaker faith!


18 posted on 03/10/2013 1:35:07 PM PDT by mdmathis6 (Rest assured, Mankind is loved....both completely and severely!)
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To: job

How could I resist reading a post with the words LIAR and FALSE PROPHET in the headline? LOL


19 posted on 03/10/2013 1:36:51 PM PDT by ChocChipCookie
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Yeah well, we’re not so sure that you have Messiah’s “BLOOD” covering that legalistic pride of yours!

“Take heed lest YOU FALL!”


20 posted on 03/10/2013 1:37:54 PM PDT by mdmathis6 (Rest assured, Mankind is loved....both completely and severely!)
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