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Cardinal Dolan eager for conclave to start
cna ^ | March 10, 2013 | David Uebbing

Posted on 03/10/2013 3:01:07 PM PDT by NYer

Cardinal Timothy M. Dolan enters Nostra Signora di Guadalupe on March 10, 2013. Credit: Christina Senour/CNA.

Vatican City, Mar 10, 2013 / 09:15 am (CNA/EWTN News).- Cardinal Timothy M. Dolan told the press outside Our Lady of Guadalupe parish in Rome that he is anxious for the conclave to begin and that he feels peaceful now that the start date is known.

“I’m anxious to get started. There was a sense of peace once we decided to start the conclave on Tuesday. … God willing, I’ll be home before Palm Sunday,” he said as he went into his titular parish on March 10.

The action in Rome shifted today from the Vatican to the various churches throughout the city that the cardinals received when they were elevated. Many of the cardinals celebrated Mass at these parishes to spend time with the people of God before they enter into the conclave on Tuesday afternoon.

CNA had personnel at several of the churches and the amount of buzz surrounding the different potential Popes was observable by the size of the media pack that held vigil at their Masses.

At Our Lady of Guadalupe parish, Cardinal Dolan made his way into the packed church, greeting members of the press and the congregation with his trademark charm.

After greeting the pastor, his brother priests and the faithful, Cardinal Dolan began his homily by saying, “Listen, this is our secret, after Saint Patrick’s cathedral in New York City, this is my favorite church,” which was met with a round of applause.

He also urged the parishioners to pray for “we cardinals rely on the prayers of all the People of God.”

At Our Lady of Victory parish in the heart of Rome, Cardinal Séan P. O’Malley was also greeted by a large media presence, and interestingly, there were many Italian outlets on site.

Cardinal O’Malley delivered his homily in Italian and then offered some brief remarks in English. He called upon the Holy Spirit to descend on the cardinals as they choose a new Pope.

The cardinals will hold one final general meeting on Monday morning, giving the last people on the list a chance to speak. Later that evening, the sound technicians who will assist the conclave will take their oath of secrecy.

On Tuesday at 10:00 a.m. all of the cardinals will gather in St. Peter’s Basilica to celebrate Mass for the Election of a New Pope.

At around 5:00 p.m. the cardinals will enter into the conclave and take another oath of secrecy that is specific to that process.

The first vote for the successor to Benedict XVI will take place that evening and the first chance to see smoke will be around 7:00 p.m.  



TOPICS: Catholic; Current Events
KEYWORDS: conclave; dolan; vatican
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To: Tax-chick
I understand it has some history, like “George Gordon LORD Byron” and “Alfred LORD Tennyson.”

I used to think it was because 'cardo' in Latin means hinge, therefore the title was a hinge between the Christian name and the surname. But I was wrong. When I researched it I found conflicting reasons for the placement of the title after the Christian name. One often given is that it's supposed to be a sign of humility to be referred to by Christian name before title.

21 posted on 03/10/2013 5:43:40 PM PDT by PeevedPatriot
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To: PeevedPatriot

Why is the New York Fire Department known as FDNY.


22 posted on 03/10/2013 6:18:10 PM PDT by UB355 (Slower traffic keep right)
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To: PeevedPatriot

In my experience, wanting to be addressed by title rather than by name has not been a sign of humility. However, old customs don’t always translate.

I’ve never known a Bishop or Archbishop to object to being called “Father” or “Bishop.” Our retired Bishop, “Bishop Emeritus,” was at my parish recently and was making a fuss over my baby, because she’s the cutest pink thing in the world. “Thank you for your blessing, Bishop!” and he wasn’t looking for more titles.


23 posted on 03/10/2013 6:47:20 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Don't panic until Rrrod panics.)
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To: Tax-chick
In my experience, wanting to be addressed by title rather than by name has not been a sign of humility

Worked with enough physicians to agree with you on that one ;) To be fair though I worked with some very down-to-earth ones too.

Our retired Bishop, “Bishop Emeritus,”...wasn’t looking for more titles.

First, congrats on your daughter. What a blessing for you both! The joy of motherhood for you and the privilege of being raised in the Church for her! Second, your experience shows that it isn't really titles that we admire, is it? We respect the way folks carry themselves, not how many letters or titles they carry in front of, in the middle of, or after their names.

Again, congrats!

24 posted on 03/10/2013 8:58:33 PM PDT by PeevedPatriot
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To: Tax-chick; Anoreth
I just can't figure why they use it only for Cardinals. If they're going to use "CARDINAL" in between the first name and last name, at least be consistent and use that structure for all religious titles. I've never heard of a Catholic deacon, priest, monsignor, bishop, archbishop, pope, etc., use his title between his first and last names. I can tell you that if I was Pope, I'd change the form of address and the "Francis Cardinal George" stuff would be the first thing to go, I'd always have it written as "Cardinal Francis George". As it currently stands, now "either version" is correct for addressing a Cardinal.

I suppose Alfred LORD Tennyson would be an good example of it used elsewhere, but it really sounds awkward in most circumstances... imagine Ruth Doctor Westheimer? ;-)

25 posted on 03/10/2013 10:50:38 PM PDT by BillyBoy ( Impeach Obama? Yes We Can!)
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To: PeevedPatriot
We respect the way folks carry themselves, not how many letters or titles they carry in front of, in the middle of, or after their names.

Excellent point, and thank you!

One advantage of titles is that it frees you from having to remember people's names ;-).

26 posted on 03/11/2013 4:20:40 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Don't panic until Rrrod panics.)
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To: mlizzy

Thank you!


27 posted on 03/11/2013 5:47:34 AM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas
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To: BillyBoy
why they use it only for Cardinals

Beats me. I'll ask Paul Father Gary next time I see him. He knows all sorts of surprising trivia, because he reads a lot.

28 posted on 03/11/2013 6:53:47 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Don't panic until Rrrod panics.)
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