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Quirky facts about papal conclaves
Charlotte Observer ^
| 3/11/2013
| The Associated Press
Posted on 03/12/2013 11:37:09 PM PDT by boatbums
VATICAN CITY LONGEST CONCLAVE: In 1268, a conclave began that lasted nearly three years - 33 months to be exact. Pope Gregory X was elected pope, but not before residents of Viterbo, north of Rome, tore the roof off the building where the cardinals were staying and restricted their meals to bread and water to make them hurry up. Hoping to avoid a repeat, Gregory decreed in 1274 that cardinals would only get one meal a day if the conclave stretched beyond three days, and served bread, water and wine if it went beyond eight. While the meals served these days at the Vatican's hotel are by no means gourmet, the cardinals won't go hungry - no matter how long they take picking a pope.
SHORTEST CONCLAVE: Before 1274, there were times when a pope was elected the same day as the death of his predecessor. After that, however, the church decided to wait at least 10 days before the first vote; later that was stretched to 15 days to give all cardinals time to get to Rome. The quickest conclave observing the 10-day wait rule appears to have been the 1503 election of Julius II, who was elected in just a few hours, according to Vatican historian Ambrogio Piazzoni.
YOUNGEST/OLDEST POPE ELECTED: Pope John XII was just 18 when he was elected in 955. The oldest popes were Pope Celestine III (elected in 1191) and Celestine V (elected in 1294) who were both nearly 85. Benedict XVI was 78 when he was elected in 2005.
FUN FACTS: The last time a pope was elected who wasn't a cardinal was Urban VI in 1378 - he was a monk and archbishop of Bari. Pope Pius XII, who was pope during World War II, left a document informing the College of Cardinals that they should hold a conclave and elect a new pope if he were taken prisoner. While the Italians have had a stranglehold on the papacy over centuries, there have been many exceptions aside from John Paul II (Polish in 1978) and Benedict XVI (German in 2005). Alexander VI, elected in 1492, was Spanish; Gregory III, elected in 731, was Syrian; Adrian VI, elected in 1522, was from the Netherlands.
TOPICS: General Discusssion; History; Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: catholic; pope; popejoan
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Didn't know the conclave process for electing the Pope didn't start until the thirteenth century.
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posted on
03/12/2013 11:37:10 PM PDT
by
boatbums
To: boatbums
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posted on
03/12/2013 11:40:48 PM PDT
by
Berlin_Freeper
(RETURN TO MECCA [http://youtu.be/zWQkaDUCJ_Y])
To: All
List of Popes
- St. Peter (32-67)
- St. Linus (67-76)
- St. Anacletus (Cletus) (76-88)
- St. Clement I (88-97)
- St. Evaristus (97-105)
- St. Alexander I (105-115)
- St. Sixtus I (115-125) Also called Xystus I
- St. Telesphorus (125-136)
- St. Hyginus (136-140)
- St. Pius I (140-155)
- St. Anicetus (155-166)
- St. Soter (166-175)
- St. Eleutherius (175-189)
- St. Victor I (189-199)
- St. Zephyrinus (199-217)
- St. Callistus I (217-22) Callistus and the following three popes were opposed by St. Hippolytus, antipope (217-236)
- St. Urban I (222-30)
- St. Pontain (230-35)
- St. Anterus (235-36)
- St. Fabian (236-50)
- St. Cornelius (251-53) Opposed by Novatian, antipope (251)
- St. Lucius I (253-54)
- St. Stephen I (254-257)
- St. Sixtus II (257-258)
- St. Dionysius (260-268)
- St. Felix I (269-274)
- St. Eutychian (275-283)
- St. Caius (283-296) Also called Gaius
- St. Marcellinus (296-304)
- St. Marcellus I (308-309)
- St. Eusebius (309 or 310)
- St. Miltiades (311-14)
- St. Sylvester I (314-35)
- St. Marcus (336)
- St. Julius I (337-52)
- Liberius (352-66) Opposed by Felix II, antipope (355-365)
- St. Damasus I (366-83) Opposed by Ursicinus, antipope (366-367)
- St. Siricius (384-99)
- St. Anastasius I (399-401)
- St. Innocent I (401-17)
- St. Zosimus (417-18)
- St. Boniface I (418-22) Opposed by Eulalius, antipope (418-419)
- St. Celestine I (422-32)
- St. Sixtus III (432-40)
- St. Leo I (the Great) (440-61)
- St. Hilarius (461-68)
- St. Simplicius (468-83)
- St. Felix III (II) (483-92)
- St. Gelasius I (492-96)
- Anastasius II (496-98)
- St. Symmachus (498-514) Opposed by Laurentius, antipope (498-501)
- St. Hormisdas (514-23)
- St. John I (523-26)
- St. Felix IV (III) (526-30)
- Boniface II (530-32) Opposed by Dioscorus, antipope (530)
- John II (533-35)
- St. Agapetus I (535-36) Also called Agapitus I
- St. Silverius (536-37)
- Vigilius (537-55)
- Pelagius I (556-61)
- John III (561-74)
- Benedict I (575-79)
- Pelagius II (579-90)
- St. Gregory I (the Great) (590-604)
- Sabinian (604-606)
- Boniface III (607)
- St. Boniface IV (608-15)
- St. Deusdedit (Adeodatus I) (615-18)
- Boniface V (619-25)
- Honorius I (625-38)
- Severinus (640)
- John IV (640-42)
- Theodore I (642-49)
- St. Martin I (649-55)
- St. Eugene I (655-57)
- St. Vitalian (657-72)
- Adeodatus (II) (672-76)
- Donus (676-78)
- St. Agatho (678-81)
- St. Leo II (682-83)
- St. Benedict II (684-85)
- John V (685-86)
- Conon (686-87)
- St. Sergius I (687-701) Opposed by Theodore and Paschal, antipopes (687)
- John VI (701-05)
- John VII (705-07)
- Sisinnius (708)
- Constantine (708-15)
- St. Gregory II (715-31)
- St. Gregory III (731-41)
- St. Zachary (741-52)
- Stephen II (752) Because he died before being consecrated, many authoritative lists omit him
- Stephen III (752-57)
- St. Paul I (757-67)
- Stephen IV (767-72) Opposed by Constantine II (767) and Philip (768), antipopes (767)
- Adrian I (772-95)
- St. Leo III (795-816)
- Stephen V (816-17)
- St. Paschal I (817-24)
- Eugene II (824-27)
- Valentine (827)
- Gregory IV (827-44)
- Sergius II (844-47) Opposed by John, antipope (855)
- St. Leo IV (847-55)
- Benedict III (855-58) Opposed by Anastasius, antipope (855)
- St. Nicholas I (the Great) (858-67)
- Adrian II (867-72)
- John VIII (872-82)
- Marinus I (882-84)
- St. Adrian III (884-85)
- Stephen VI (885-91)
- Formosus (891-96)
- Boniface VI (896)
- Stephen VII (896-97)
- Romanus (897)
- Theodore II (897)
- John IX (898-900)
- Benedict IV (900-03)
- Leo V (903) Opposed by Christopher, antipope (903-904)
- Sergius III (904-11)
- Anastasius III (911-13)
- Lando (913-14)
- John X (914-28)
- Leo VI (928)
- Stephen VIII (929-31)
- John XI (931-35)
- Leo VII (936-39)
- Stephen IX (939-42)
- Marinus II (942-46)
- Agapetus II (946-55)
- John XII (955-63)
- Leo VIII (963-64)
- Benedict V (964)
- John XIII (965-72)
- Benedict VI (973-74)
- Benedict VII (974-83) Benedict and John XIV were opposed by Boniface VII, antipope (974; 984-985)
- John XIV (983-84)
- John XV (985-96)
- Gregory V (996-99) Opposed by John XVI, antipope (997-998)
- Sylvester II (999-1003)
- John XVII (1003)
- John XVIII (1003-09)
- Sergius IV (1009-12)
- Benedict VIII (1012-24) Opposed by Gregory, antipope (1012)
- John XIX (1024-32)
- Benedict IX (1032-45) He appears on this list three separate times, because he was twice deposed and restored
- Sylvester III (1045) Considered by some to be an antipope
- Benedict IX (1045)
- Gregory VI (1045-46)
- Clement II (1046-47)
- Benedict IX (1047-48)
- Damasus II (1048)
- St. Leo IX (1049-54)
- Victor II (1055-57)
- Stephen X (1057-58)
- Nicholas II (1058-61) Opposed by Benedict X, antipope (1058)
- Alexander II (1061-73) Opposed by Honorius II, antipope (1061-1072)
- St. Gregory VII (1073-85) Gregory and the following three popes were opposed by Guibert ("Clement III"), antipope (1080-1100)
- Blessed Victor III (1086-87)
- Blessed Urban II (1088-99)
- Paschal II (1099-1118) Opposed by Theodoric (1100), Aleric (1102) and Maginulf ("Sylvester IV", 1105-1111), antipopes (1100)
- Gelasius II (1118-19) Opposed by Burdin ("Gregory VIII"), antipope (1118)
- Callistus II (1119-24)
- Honorius II (1124-30) Opposed by Celestine II, antipope (1124)
- Innocent II (1130-43) Opposed by Anacletus II (1130-1138) and Gregory Conti ("Victor IV") (1138), antipopes (1138)
- Celestine II (1143-44)
- Lucius II (1144-45)
- Blessed Eugene III (1145-53)
- Anastasius IV (1153-54)
- Adrian IV (1154-59)
- Alexander III (1159-81) Opposed by Octavius ("Victor IV") (1159-1164), Pascal III (1165-1168), Callistus III (1168-1177) and Innocent III (1178-1180), antipopes
- Lucius III (1181-85)
- Urban III (1185-87)
- Gregory VIII (1187)
- Clement III (1187-91)
- Celestine III (1191-98)
- Innocent III (1198-1216)
- Honorius III (1216-27)
- Gregory IX (1227-41)
- Celestine IV (1241)
- Innocent IV (1243-54)
- Alexander IV (1254-61)
- Urban IV (1261-64)
- Clement IV (1265-68)
- Blessed Gregory X (1271-76)
- Blessed Innocent V (1276)
- Adrian V (1276)
- John XXI (1276-77)
- Nicholas III (1277-80)
- Martin IV (1281-85)
- Honorius IV (1285-87)
- Nicholas IV (1288-92)
- St. Celestine V (1294)
- Boniface VIII (1294-1303)
- Blessed Benedict XI (1303-04)
- Clement V (1305-14)
- John XXII (1316-34) Opposed by Nicholas V, antipope (1328-1330)
- Benedict XII (1334-42)
- Clement VI (1342-52)
- Innocent VI (1352-62)
- Blessed Urban V (1362-70)
- Gregory XI (1370-78)
- Urban VI (1378-89) Opposed by Robert of Geneva ("Clement VII"), antipope (1378-1394)
- Boniface IX (1389-1404) Opposed by Robert of Geneva ("Clement VII") (1378-1394), Pedro de Luna ("Benedict XIII") (1394-1417) and Baldassare Cossa ("John XXIII") (1400-1415), antipopes
- Innocent VII (1404-06) Opposed by Pedro de Luna ("Benedict XIII") (1394-1417) and Baldassare Cossa ("John XXIII") (1400-1415), antipopes
- Gregory XII (1406-15) Opposed by Pedro de Luna ("Benedict XIII") (1394-1417), Baldassare Cossa ("John XXIII") (1400-1415), and Pietro Philarghi ("Alexander V") (1409-1410), antipopes
- Martin V (1417-31)
- Eugene IV (1431-47) Opposed by Amadeus of Savoy ("Felix V"), antipope (1439-1449)
- Nicholas V (1447-55)
- Callistus III (1455-58)
- Pius II (1458-64)
- Paul II (1464-71)
- Sixtus IV (1471-84)
- Innocent VIII (1484-92)
- Alexander VI (1492-1503)
- Pius III (1503)
- Julius II (1503-13)
- Leo X (1513-21)
- Adrian VI (1522-23)
- Clement VII (1523-34)
- Paul III (1534-49)
- Julius III (1550-55)
- Marcellus II (1555)
- Paul IV (1555-59)
- Pius IV (1559-65)
- St. Pius V (1566-72)
- Gregory XIII (1572-85)
- Sixtus V (1585-90)
- Urban VII (1590)
- Gregory XIV (1590-91)
- Innocent IX (1591)
- Clement VIII (1592-1605)
- Leo XI (1605)
- Paul V (1605-21)
- Gregory XV (1621-23)
- Urban VIII (1623-44)
- Innocent X (1644-55)
- Alexander VII (1655-67)
- Clement IX (1667-69)
- Clement X (1670-76)
- Blessed Innocent XI (1676-89)
- Alexander VIII (1689-91)
- Innocent XII (1691-1700)
- Clement XI (1700-21)
- Innocent XIII (1721-24)
- Benedict XIII (1724-30)
- Clement XII (1730-40)
- Benedict XIV (1740-58)
- Clement XIII (1758-69)
- Clement XIV (1769-74)
- Pius VI (1775-99)
- Pius VII (1800-23)
- Leo XII (1823-29)
- Pius VIII (1829-30)
- Gregory XVI (1831-46)
- Blessed Pius IX (1846-78)
- Leo XIII (1878-1903)
- St. Pius X (1903-14)
- Benedict XV (1914-22) Biographies of Benedict XV and his successors will be added at a later date
- Pius XI (1922-39)
- Pius XII (1939-58)
- Blessed John XXIII (1958-63)
- Paul VI (1963-78)
- John Paul I (1978)
- Blessed John Paul II (1978-2005)
- Benedict XVI (2005-2013)
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posted on
03/12/2013 11:43:52 PM PDT
by
Cronos
(Latin presbuteros->Late Latin presbyter->Old English pruos->Middle Engl prest->priest)
To: Cronos
Which one had the most kids?
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posted on
03/13/2013 12:01:44 AM PDT
by
Ecliptic
(.)
To: berdie
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posted on
03/13/2013 12:01:59 AM PDT
by
berdie
To: boatbums
UNder fun facts, it should be included that at certain points in history there were more than one Pope, and that a couple were female. Also that the leader of the Jesuits is (unoficially) called “The Black Pope”.
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posted on
03/13/2013 12:29:10 AM PDT
by
Secret Agent Man
(I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
To: Secret Agent Man
Um.. Pope Joan is a myth.
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posted on
03/13/2013 12:50:31 AM PDT
by
D-fendr
(Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
To: Secret Agent Man
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posted on
03/13/2013 2:05:22 AM PDT
by
Campion
("Social justice" begins in the womb)
To: Ecliptic
Which one had the most kids?
And your point is...?
To: Secret Agent Man
Also that the leader of the Jesuits is (unoficially) called The Black Pope.
Who flies in a black helicopter piloted by an albino monk all under the mind control of Dan Brown.
To: Cronos
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT LIST OF POPES!!
The Protestants will be heard from...SOON!
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posted on
03/13/2013 4:42:56 AM PDT
by
Ann Archy
(ABORTION........the HUMAN sacrifice to the god of CONVENIENCE.)
To: Ecliptic
Her;s the FIRST snarky comment!!! Did not take as long as I thought!!
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posted on
03/13/2013 4:43:52 AM PDT
by
Ann Archy
(ABORTION........the HUMAN sacrifice to the god of CONVENIENCE.)
To: Secret Agent Man
at certain points in history there were more than one PopeIncorrect.
a couple were female
Incorrect.
the leader of the Jesuits is (unoficially) called The Black Pope
Before the suppressions, yes.
To: boatbums
Conclave means "locked in" in Latin (
con "with, under"
clavis - "key").
The process before they began locking the electors in a room was similar.
The term conclave refers to the locking in, not the electoral process.
To: Cronos
So how did the Apostle John feel about bowing down to and kissing the rings of Linus and Clement???
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posted on
03/13/2013 5:47:27 AM PDT
by
Iscool
(uee)
To: Ecliptic
Which one had the most kids?Eleven popes had children, four legitimately. It is likely that early popes like Peter, Linus and Clement also had legitimate children but there are no records.
Four, possibly five, popes had illegitimate children before they entered the priesthood.
Two, possibly three, popes had illegitimate children before they were elected.
The pope with the most illegitimate children was likely Paul III, with three, possibly four children.
To: Iscool
So how did the Apostle John feel about bowing down to and kissing the rings of Linus and Clement???It is unlikely he ever met them.
They lived in Rome and he lived in the Aegean.
To: Secret Agent Man
and that a couple were female. There were never, ever, at any time in history, female popes. Pope Joan is a nonsensical myth.
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posted on
03/13/2013 6:17:09 AM PDT
by
pgkdan
( "Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not." ~Thomas Jefferson)
To: pgkdan
But . . . but . . . but . . . there was a Hollywood movie and everything! It’s science!
To: Ann Archy; boatbums
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT LIST OF POPES!! The Protestants will be heard from...SOON! Unless I'm mistaken, a Protestant created the thread.
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posted on
03/13/2013 7:15:21 AM PDT
by
Alex Murphy
("If you are not firm in faith, you will not be firm at all" - Isaiah 7:9)
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