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Oh, we are in deep, deep trouble
Barnhardt.biz ^ | 03/16/2013 | Ann Barnhardt

Posted on 03/16/2013 7:33:00 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum

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To: uncommonsense

You wrote: “We communicate with God through Jesus”

Which is EXACTLY what Catholics do when they ask their fellow Christians in heaven to pray with and for them.

You have a wooden understanding of what we Catholics do. You ask for confirmation only of what fits your presupposed wooden understanding.

I gave you the example that undergirds our understanding of what we are doing when we ask saints to pray with us. It is done IN CHRIST, in the mystery of the Body of Christ which is present simultaneously in heaven and on earth.

You do not want to open your mind to entertain the possibliity that you might have wrong impressions of what we think we are doing. The prooftexts you claim I have not delivered are prooftexts that would undergird YOUR presupposed but false understanding of what we believe we are doing.

You do not have sufficient openness of mind to entertain possibilities of interpretation of Scripture other than those you already hold.

I shake off the dust of my feet against your closedmindedness. You want a prooftext for that?


181 posted on 03/20/2013 10:01:26 AM PDT by Houghton M.
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To: Houghton M.
"I shake off the dust of my feet against your closedmindedness."

I'm not at all closed minded. I was an atheist upon graduating from undergrad school and got put into a cubicle with a Bible believing Christian - my worst fear. But he told me what he believed and why with great patients and skill. I had to admit my entire belief system regarding God and the afterlife was flat out wrong, requiring a response on my part. So far, you've offered nothing compelling.

"The prooftexts you claim I have not delivered are prooftexts that would undergird YOUR presupposed but false understanding of what we believe we are doing."

In other words, you quoting the Bible would reinforce my belief that praying "with" saints in heaven is not biblical. Fine, at least you had the guts to state what you believe.

182 posted on 03/20/2013 6:05:41 PM PDT by uncommonsense (Conservatives believe what they see; Liberals see what they believe.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
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183 posted on 03/21/2013 7:37:49 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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