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Bergoglio makes mincemeat of journalist (socialism = evil)
Diocese of Salford ^ | 3/24/2013

Posted on 03/24/2013 8:49:58 AM PDT by markomalley

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To: zot; Interesting Times; SeekAndFind; Alamo-Girl

An excellent interview with Pope Francis before he was elected. worth reading in its entirity,

[Cardinal Bergolio to Reporter] — Friend, you are a socialist and your friends are socialists. And you are the reason for 70 years of misery in Russia and Europe now is seizing in pain from your policies. You believe in the redistribution of wealth and it makes entire populations poor. You want to nationalize everything and bring every human endeavor under your control. You destroy a man’s incentive to take care of his very own family, a crime against nature and nature’s God.


41 posted on 03/24/2013 11:52:43 AM PDT by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: markomalley

When I read the link was pulled - I decided it was for real.

It sounds like Him to me. I read somewhere, I think it was a Raymond Arroyo email containing a quote from somewhere - that Cardinal Bergoglio is known to be an ___-kicking kind of guy.


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But the Catholic Church doesn’t do it. It’s not up to them to bend and shape and mold itself to accommodate the shrinking depravity of a worldwide culture. It’s to provide the exact opposite. It’s to provide a beacon out of depravity, socialism and sin, among other things.
REPORTER: If pope you would be bad news for the left.


REPORTER: Do you feel that you need to erase the progress recently made in Latin America?
BERGOGLIO: I say “poverty”. You say “progress”.


42 posted on 03/24/2013 12:02:52 PM PDT by PraiseTheLord (economic civil war ?)
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To: vladimir998


“low information voter”

Makes me think it is a fake interview.

Note that description is very often used - in some circles here.

AND the Cardinal said that only just recently he had been studying these American things.

Sounds exactly correct that he would use such a term in the circumstances. Maybe he was Rush-in-the-face of the ‘reporter’


43 posted on 03/24/2013 12:09:50 PM PDT by PraiseTheLord (economic civil war ?)
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To: markomalley

I got very skeptical after I saw the expression “low information voters” in the Cardinal’s quote.


44 posted on 03/24/2013 12:12:01 PM PDT by COBOL2Java (Fighting Obama without Boehner & McConnell is like going deer hunting without your accordion)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks markomalley.
Look at the nature of power. In Europe first and now in America, elected men have taken it upon themselves to indebt their people to create an atmosphere of dependency. And why? For their own selfish need to increase their own personal power. I’ve been a keen observer of the effect this has on the people, especially the poor. They are very good at creating poverty where there is no reason to explain it.

45 posted on 03/24/2013 12:17:35 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: markomalley

The Pope preserved from the possibility of error? Has he read much history?


46 posted on 03/24/2013 12:33:04 PM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism)
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To: markomalley

Don’t hold your breath waiting to learn the source of this fictitious interview. http://paxonbothhouses.blogspot.com/2013/03/pope-francis-socialism-causes-misery.html

For fact-checkable information concerning Pope Francis’ economic and political views, please explore:

Pax on both houses: Pope Francis: “Free Markets Are Tyrannical ...
paxonbothhouses.blogspot.com/.../pope-francis-i-criticizes-capitalist....4 days ago – In his first tweet after his inauguration on the @Pontifex account, Pope Francis said: “Let us keep a place for Christ in our lives, let us care for ...

Pax on both houses: Pope Francis and Social Sin
paxonbothhouses.blogspot.com/.../pope-francis-i-and-social-sin.html5 days ago – Although Pope Francis is a conservative fellow, his Latin American upbringing forces recognition of social sin whose structure is responsible for ...

Pax on both houses: Pope Francis: “Mercy makes the world... more ...
paxonbothhouses.blogspot.com/.../pope-francis-mercy-makes-world-...7 days ago – In his address from the balcony above St. Peter’s Square on Sunday, March 17, 2013, Pope Francis told the crowd that he wanted to talk about ...

Pax on both houses: Pope Francis’ First Papal Decision: “Carnival ...
paxonbothhouses.blogspot.com/.../pope-francis-first-papal-decision.h...Mar 16, 2013 – Former cardinal Jorge Mario Bergoglio travelling on Buenos Aires subway in 2008 Pope Francis was known to use public transport in Buenos ...

Pax on both houses: Pope Francis: Comments On Economic Inequality
paxonbothhouses.blogspot.com/.../pope-francis-comments-on-econo...Mar 16, 2013 – Pax on both houses. The best is ... Pope Francis: Comments On Economic Inequality ... Pope Francis Criticizes Capitalist World’s “Econom.

Pax on both houses: Pope Francis Set To Oppose...
paxonbothhouses.blogspot.com/.../pope-frances-seems-set-to-oppose....Mar 17, 2013 – “When you pick up a volume of the social teaching of the Church you are amazed at what it condemns. For example, it condemns economic ...

Pax on both houses: Pope Francis and the junta: What really ...
paxonbothhouses.blogspot.com/.../pope-francis-and-junta-what-reall...Mar 16, 2013 – In this 1966 photo released by the El Salvador School, Argentine seminarian Jorge Mario Bergoglio smiles for a portrait at the El Salvador ...

Pax on both houses: “Francis, a pope of the poor,” E.J. Dionne
paxonbothhouses.blogspot.com/.../francis-pope-of-poor-ej-dionne.ht...Mar 14, 2013 – In winning election as Pope Francis, Jorge Mario Bergoglio defied the papal pundits, even though they should have seen him coming. His rise ...


47 posted on 03/24/2013 1:54:18 PM PDT by AArchibald (Pope Francis' fact-checkable economic and political views)
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To: AArchibald
Welcome to FR. If the political attitudes on the blog you are pimping are any indication of what you plan to post here, you likely will not last very long. So let me give you a word of advice:

Now, more than ever, we need to call to mind the words of Archbishop Charles Chaput:

We make a very serious mistake if we rely on media like the New York Times, Newsweek, CNN, or MSNBC for reliable news about religion. These news media simply don’t provide trustworthy information about religious faith—and sometimes they can’t provide it, either because of limited resources or because of their own editorial prejudices. These are secular operations focused on making a profit. They have very little sympathy for the Catholic faith, and quite a lot of aggressive skepticism toward any religious community that claims to preach and teach God’s truth.

Things of the Church reported in the secular media, particularly about the Holy Father, need to be viewed with the most jaundiced eye.

Those words would tend to serve you well here as well as in life.

48 posted on 03/24/2013 2:23:02 PM PDT by markomalley (Nothing emboldens the wicked so greatly as the lack of courage on the part of the good -- Leo XIII)
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49 posted on 03/24/2013 2:24:20 PM PDT by narses
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To: markomalley

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/damianthompson/100208720/did-pope-francis-really-say-that-socialism-causes-misery-and-that-america-is-heading-towards-a-form-of-communism/


50 posted on 03/24/2013 2:26:40 PM PDT by narses
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To: markomalley

How does an interview “not work out” - it is what it is.

What he really meant was he could not get the Pope to say what he wanted him to say


51 posted on 03/24/2013 2:31:25 PM PDT by Mr. K (There are lies, damned lies, statistics, and democrat talking points.)
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To: narses

please see post #19 and #20. I tried to stop this train.


52 posted on 03/24/2013 2:38:31 PM PDT by markomalley (Nothing emboldens the wicked so greatly as the lack of courage on the part of the good -- Leo XIII)
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To: markomalley

It can’t be real. He would never have used the phrase “low-information voter.” Pity.


53 posted on 03/24/2013 2:56:32 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (I am a dissident. Will you join me? My name is John....)
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To: Houghton M.
He references "LOW INFORMATION VOTER"- is't that a phrase made famous by Limbaugh?

POLITICALLY CREATED POOR-these are powerful words which tell a very long story, and accurately. Those words need to go out far and wide.

54 posted on 03/24/2013 2:58:19 PM PDT by Texas Songwriter (')
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To: Houghton M.

A number of things show this is not real. Even though it is essentially true, I don’t think Cardinal Bergoglio would say publicly that Pope John Paul II “rescued” him. He would never say that South America is lost. Also, this interview makes it sounds like he has been a critic of socialism, I don’t remember him ever expressing that.


55 posted on 03/24/2013 3:46:50 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: markomalley

Almost every line of this makes it clear, this thing is false, and the person who wrote is a moron.


56 posted on 03/24/2013 3:57:46 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: markomalley

And yet it sounded soooo good!

:)

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57 posted on 03/24/2013 5:58:41 PM PDT by narses
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To: AArchibald

Pox, not pax.

Low information blogger, it would seem.


58 posted on 03/24/2013 6:07:20 PM PDT by Houghton M.
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To: nickcarraway

Actually, no, not almost every line. Some lines. And the person who think that every line shows it to be false is, well, can we say mor . . .


59 posted on 03/24/2013 6:09:14 PM PDT by Houghton M.
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To: GreyFriar

Thank you so much for highlighting that excerpt and for the ping!


60 posted on 03/24/2013 8:36:14 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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