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To: markomalley; smvoice; Alex Murphy; RnMomof7

The RCC is already semi-pelagian, so what harm would there be to take it all the way?


3 posted on 03/28/2013 6:02:58 AM PDT by Dutchboy88
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To: Dutchboy88; smvoice; Alex Murphy; RnMomof7
The RCC is already semi-pelagian, so what harm would there be to take it all the way?

A very blessed Holy Thursday today...and Happy Easter to you all!

4 posted on 03/28/2013 6:04:16 AM PDT by markomalley (Nothing emboldens the wicked so greatly as the lack of courage on the part of the good -- Leo XIII)
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To: Dutchboy88
The RCC is already semi-pelagian

You do not know what the terms "Pelagian" or "Semi-Pelagian" mean.

Hence your confusion regarding the Catholic Church's teaching, which embraces neither heresy.

6 posted on 03/28/2013 6:34:56 AM PDT by wideawake
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To: Dutchboy88
The RCC is already semi-pelagian, so what harm would there be to take it all the way?

I just spewed Diet Mountain Dew all over my computer.

8 posted on 03/28/2013 6:39:04 AM PDT by Gamecock (He is Risen!)
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To: Dutchboy88; markomalley

4 minutes and 42 seconds to the first bash. What’s the record?


25 posted on 03/28/2013 8:56:09 AM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory, and He will not be mocked! Blessed be the Name of the Lord forever!)
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To: Dutchboy88
You might want to look into that.

PELAGIANISM

Heretical teaching on grace of Pelagius (355-425), the English or Irish lay monk who first propagated his views in Rome in the time of Pope Anastasius (reigned 399-401). He was scandalized at St. Augustine's teaching on the need for grace to remain chaste, arguing that this imperiled man's use of his own free will. Pelagius wrote and spoke extensively and was several times condemned by Church councils during his lifetime, notably the Councils of Carthage and Mileve in 416, confirmed the following year by Pope Innocent I. Pelagius deceived the next Pope, Zozimus, who at first exonerated the heretic, but soon (418) retracted his decision. Pelagianism is a cluster of doctrinal errors, some of which have plagued the Church ever since. Its principal tenets are: 1. Adam would have died even if he had not sinned; 2. Adam's fall injured only himself and at worst affected his posterity by giving them a bad example; 3. newborn children are in the same condition as Adam before he fell; 4. mankind will not die because of Adam's sin or rise on the Last Day because of Christ's redemption; 5. the law of ancient Israel no less than the Gospel offers equal opportunity to reach heaven. As Pelagianism later developed, it totally denied the supernatural order and the necessity of grace for salvation.

All items in this dictionary are from Fr. John Hardon's Modern Catholic Dictionary, © Eternal Life. Used with permission.

36 posted on 03/28/2013 11:45:46 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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What a shame that you, Dutchboy and Gamecock, can’t even give it a rest on Easter Sunday. What tortured souls you must be. May God bless you, and ease the psychological and emotional pain you clearly suffer.


121 posted on 03/31/2013 10:15:31 AM PDT by EDINVA
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