Mormons to Have 85,000 Missionaries This Year

ReligionNews.com ^ | June 4, 2013 | Jana Riess

[Colofornian]

The Salt Lake Tribune reported yesterday that the LDS Church is expecting to hit a milestone of 85,000 missionaries in late 2013. This is half again as many missionaries as were serving before the Church made its landmark October 2012 announcement that the missionary age was being lowered, spurring thousands of young men and women to turn in their applications.

[Colofornian]

Good attitude.

I'm simply advocating that people be prepared.

[Colofornian]

You seem a tad judgmental to me (said headsonpikes to CodeToad a bit judgmentally, failing to see the self-indictment in that post)

[Salvation]

If they come to my door they will have to listen to my views on Catholicism before I listen to any of their views.

[AEMILIUS PAULUS]

Colofornian is often overly intense in his posting of the materials on Mormonism.(Overkill if you please.) However, his posts are often in the words of the Mormon founders and leaders and no one to my knowledge has stated he has posted materials falsely attributable to Mormon leaders or misstates said leaders own words. The words of the Mormons themselves express weird doctrines. It is fun to watch the Mormons bob, weave and split hairs in their forlorn attempt to avoid what was said or implied over the years by Mormon founders and leaders.

[AEMILIUS PAULUS]

Colofornian is often overly intense in his posting of the materials on Mormonism.(Overkill if you please.) However, his posts are often in the words of the Mormon founders and leaders and no one to my knowledge has stated he has posted materials falsely attributable to Mormon leaders or misstates said leaders own words. The words of the Mormons themselves express weird doctrines. It is fun to watch the Mormons bob, weave and split hairs in their forlorn attempt to avoid what was said or implied over the years by Mormon founders and leaders.

[headsonpikes]

Irony. You could look it up. Here, I saved you the trouble: From Wiki --Irony (from the Ancient Greek εἰρωνεία eirōneía, meaning dissimulation or feigned ignorance),[1] in its broadest sense, is a rhetorical device, literary technique, or event characterized by an incongruity, or contrast, between reality (what is) and appearance (what seems to be). The term may be further defined into several categories, among which are: verbal, dramatic, and situational. Verbal Irony[2] is an incongruity between what is said and what is meant. The discordance of verbal irony may be deliberately created as a means of communication (as in art or rhetoric). Dramatic Irony is an incongruity between what a character in a work of fiction believes to be true and what the audience knows to be true. Dramatic irony communicated the importance of a particular truth by portraying a person who is strikingly unaware of it, emphasizing a perceived truth. Situational Irony is an "incongruity between the actual result of a sequence of events and the normal, [intended], or expected result."[3] Descriptions or depictions of situational irony, whether in fiction or in non-fiction, serve the communicative function of sharpening or highlighting certain discordant features of reality. Verbal, dramatic, and situational irony are often used for emphasis in the assertion of a truth. The ironic form of simile, used in sarcasm, and some forms of litotes emphasize one's meaning by the deliberate use of language which states the opposite of the truth — or drastically and obviously understates a factual connection. Other forms include dialectic and practical, as identified by Thirlwall. I hope this has helped(despite formatting probs).

[Fullclip]

Why do continually post this nonsense?

I don’t agree with the LDS doctrine and I have two Morman’s work for me. We don’t discuss religion and have mutual respect. Why don’t you give that a try?

[My hearts in London - Everett]

Proverbs 3:21

My son, preserve sound judgment and DISCERNment, do not let them out of your sight;

Proverbs 28:11

A rich man may be wise in his own eyes, but a poor man who has DISCERNment sees through him.

1 John 4:1 ESV

Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but TEST the spirits to see whether they are from God, for many false prophets have gone out into the world.

John 7:24 ESV

Do not judge by appearances, but JUDGE with right judgment.

1 Timothy 6:3-5 ESV

If anyone teaches a different doctrine and does not agree with the sound words of our Lord Jesus Christ and the teaching that accords with godliness, he is puffed up with conceit and understands nothing. He has an unhealthy craving for controversy and for quarrels about words, which produce envy, dissension, slander, evil suspicions, and constant friction among people who are depraved in mind and deprived of the truth, imagining that godliness is a means of gain.

Matthew 10:16 ESV

“Behold, I am sending you out as sheep in the midst of wolves, so BE WISE as serpents and innocent as doves.

2 Corinthians 11:4 ESV

For if someone comes and proclaims another Jesus than the one we proclaimed, or if you receive a different spirit from the one you received, or if you accept a different gospel from the one you accepted, you put up with it readily enough.

Acts 17:11 ESV

Now these Jews were more noble than those in Thessalonica; they received the word with all eagerness, EXAMINING the Scriptures daily to see if these things were so.

1 Kings 3:11 ESV

And God said to him, “Because you have asked this, and have not asked for yourself long life or riches or the life of your enemies, but have asked for yourself understanding to DISCERN what is right,

[Vendome]

Hey!

Hadn’t seen you in a while.

How’s life?

[Utah Binger]

Poor kids go out with stars in their eyes, work sometimes 16 hours a day, get managed with overwhelming supervision, have rules that are almost unbelievable and now are sending out little boys and little girls who have mostly never understood their beliefs and in most cases are not ready for what is about to happen.

Our neighbor’s daughter came to see us in December to announce her mission call. Of course we congratulated her. She had no clue about what was about to happen. Within three weeks she came to pieces, returning home because of physical and mental exhaustion. I could tell by the look in her eyes that she had figured a few things out.

In 1960 I would have done the same thing except for the social consequences of failing so I stuck it out.

And I do not need any lectures from Bible pounders or true believers here on Free Republic. I just feel really sorry for all of these poor kids that are so indoctrinated and have no clue about what is about to happen to them. And six are my grand nieces and nephews.

[headsonpikes]

Discerning what is right is the entire task of moral intelligence and is a lifetime’s work.

Do not presume to have completed that effort.

[AEMILIUS PAULUS]

For some reason my post was truncated. I further said: by the very words of the Mormon founders and leaders over the years Smith was a false prophet and Mormonism is an obviously false religion deceiving many.

[Vendome]

I agree with Jeff.

A few bad apples doesn’t not create an epidemic within certain groups.

Further, it’s damned difficult for many businesses to wee out applicants who are illegal.

In fact, it’s against the law to ask about their status on the one hand, on the other it’s suppose to be unlawful for them to hire an illegal.

Thing is, we know when a person is here illegally by intuition and certain behaviors on the illegal’s part.

Still, there are boocoo fines for “discrimination” when one learns or has enough evidence to believe they are illegal.

When an employer attempts to live within the law and social construct of American ideals they are faced with a disturbing conundrum.

[Colofornian]

I have two Morman’s work for me. We don’t discuss religion and have mutual respect. Why don’t you give that a try?

Your two Mormon employees, if they have kids, probably have had or will have kids-who-turn into Lds missionaries. They WILL discuss religion with others -- even strangers. And yet you, who operate on a friendly basis & "mutual respect" won't even discuss your faith life??? Why not?

Are you ashamed of your faith life? Is only these missionary kids' faith life one worth advocating to others -- even strangers -- that you can't be bothered to share your own with people you share "mutual respect" for?

If you claim to be a Christian, Jesus said to "go and make disciples of all ethnic groups" -- all identity classes -- as part of His Great Commission (Matthew 28:18-20). Why don't you give that a try?

[Colofornian]

Re: "overly intense" -- I don't apologize...after all, the apostle Paul said in Galatians 4:18: It is fine to be zealous, provided the purpose is good, and to be so always, not just when I am with you.

I mean, I have even commended Lds missionaries for their zeal -- even when their "purpose" wasn't good!

Strange tho how some Christians (not referencing you, A.P.) can openly commended Lds missionaries who give 60-70 hour weeks for two years; yet when it comes to Christians who give time to comparing the true Christian gospel vs. the false Mormon one, they shrink back.

[Jeff Head]

Thank you.

Life is good. The good Lord has been kind and merciful to me and mine.

My experiences with chordoma bone cancer of the spine continue, but I have been preserved thus far for His ends, and am eternally grateful to all who exercised their faith on my behalf.

Been doing a lot with grandkids, and kids and their spouses. With the wife. Been contributing and spreading the good world on Facebook a lot...and here as well.

Again, thanks for asking and God's speed and blessings to you and yours.

[My hearts in London - Everett]

It’s not that hard when you’ve read the Bible. God didn’t make Christianity a complicated endeavor only completed upon death. Discerning or judging what’s right or wrong, a lie or misleading is not that difficult with the Bible giving guidance. I don’t presume anything.

[Ruy Dias de Bivar]

I’ve had LDS and JWs come to my house. Once they step inside, after about 15 minutes they try to escape, but I then ask them other questions and keep them here for another 15 minutes, then are glad to escape!

I love it when it is real HOT and my AC is off.

They never come back.

[Ruy Dias de Bivar]

***I just feel really sorry for all of these poor kids that are so indoctrinated and have no clue about what is about to happen to them.***

I had LDS friends in Farmington NM whose son was on a mission trip, but he was not a missionary. His job was to council missionaries and keep them from leaving LDS.

One missionary he counciled was so disheartened he wanted to commit suicide.

[Utah Binger]

One missionary he counciled was so disheartened he wanted to commit suicide.

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That is the other side of the story that never gets told.
I remember several that couldn’t get out of bed for days.