Posted on 07/22/2013 2:45:09 PM PDT by NYer
Gee! how fun to be you and play with the buttons!
NO,No, you said that Jesus said of the bread that “this is my body” and of the wine “this is my blood” so you evidently believe that He is literally bread with wine flowing through it because you just told us that that statement made by Jesus was literal and not allegory. You can't have it both ways.
John 6:48 - "I am the bread of life.
John 6:49 - Your fathers ate the manna in the wilderness, and they died.
John 6:50 - This is the bread which comes down from heaven, that a man may eat of it and not die.
John 6:51 - I am the living bread which came down from heaven; if any one eats of this bread, he will live for ever; and the bread which I shall give for the life of the world is my flesh.”
John 6:52 - The Jews then disputed among themselves, saying, “How can this man give us his flesh to eat?”
John 6:53 - So Jesus said to them, “Truly, truly, I say to you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of man and drink his blood, you have no life in you;
John 6:54 - he who eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise him up at the last day.
John 6:55 - For my flesh is food indeed, and my blood is drink indeed.
John 6:56 - He who eats my flesh and drinks my blood abides in me, and I in him.
John 6:57 - As the living Father sent me, and I live because of the Father, so he who eats me will live because of me.
John 6:58 - This is the bread which came down from heaven, not such as the fathers ate and died; he who eats this bread will live for ever.”
[That's when many scornfully turned away from Jesus, and left Him.]
After this many of his disciples drew back and no longer went about with him.
John 6:66
So you also believe that Jesus was literally bread and wine?
Uhh..Mary said yes to God...she didn’t have to...so yes she did play a part...are you implying that if Mary had said no, that God would have just ...kept on trying till someone said yes?...
Yes, the events of the last supper are completely literal. I was not referring to anything in your comment other than the truncation of my previous comment regarding the bible.
Is it doctrine or just pious belief that Mary was bodily assumed into heaven. I believe Eastern Catholics consider her as falling asleep in The Lord, but it is only a pious belief that she was bodily assumed thereafter.
Please feel free to correct me on Eastern Catholic faith if you should know better. Whereas I have disagreements with the RCC, they must always be addressed honestly without distortion of the teachings. I truly believe that God will grant mercy to those that truly believe, even with error as long as they don’t blaspheme and distort the truth.
Well, if Jesus was literally bread He couldn’t have been literally human because no other human is bread. Catholics seem to have a conundrum on their hands.
My memory RE: you has been jogged.
You called a sex-tape between a man who threatened to blow up a school and an underaged girl a "family video, a memento." http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2986971/posts #38
Think Christmas is "pagan nonsense" and only celebrate Hannukuh. http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2971533/posts?page=74#74 #74
And that God intended marijauna as humanity's go-to cure all. Also, that anything birds eat is beneficial to humans. http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2967484/posts?page=66#66
So, you crackpot, it would appear that you not only have nothing of value to say, but rather you peddle dangerous and deranged garbage. Good night -- I hope your attendant gets your straight-jacket on you extra tight at bedtime, as you seem a little bit agitated.
#80.
Even the reformers...Luther, zwingali and Calvin all believed in the perpetual virginity of Mary...and argued it from the bible...ooops
quote please — where is your source and authority for that statement — or are you dissing Jesus who said, “This is my body.” “This is my blood. Do this in remembrance of me.”
I don’t think Jesus is demonically deceptive at all.
No, no, no. Once again you claimed that Jesus comments were LITERAL, not “metaphysical” or “outside of the physical reality we are confined to”. You said you believe Jesus statement of “this is my body” when he had bread in His hand was LITERALY His body and when He said “ this is my blood” when He had wine in the cup it was LITERALLY His blood.
When Jesus said that He is the "Bread of Life", do you think Jesus was lying?!?!?!?
Or do you think that God does not have the POWER to effect transubstantiation, as Jesus solemnly taught the Apostles of His Church at the "Last Supper"?!?!?!?
You must have never read Acts 10 and perhaps missed the discussion we just had on that subject. Do you also believe the Holy Spirit would contradict Himself?
“The signs of bread and wine become, in a way surpassing understanding, the Body and Blood of Christ”—CCC 1333
Yes!
Most assuredly so.
Particularly the mass, which is straight out of the Lake that burns.
3 posted on 7/22/2013 2:51:40 PM by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
So is blood pudding back on the menu?
Calvin was also instrumental in having Michael Servetus burned at the stake. Should we also believe that was a good thing? All three were also well indoctrinated by the Catholic Church so it’s not unreasonable to believe that they did retain some of the errors of the Catholic beliefs. Follow men and you will always end in error.
Don’t you think this embarrassing mud slinging contest has gone far enough?
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