Posted on 08/22/2013 3:56:07 PM PDT by NYer
Yeah, I figured. You post time and again wanting people to read your stuff but won’t look at opposing evidence. Not a good place to be when searching for truth. Readers can understand that it’s not really truth you seak but entrenchment in the error of Catholicism.
The contrast is both glaring and telling isn’t it?
This amount of spin puts FAIRLDS to shame!
5 Then some of the believers who belonged to the party of the Pharisees stood up and said, “The Gentiles must be circumcised and required to keep the law of Moses.”
6 The apostles and elders met to consider this question. 7 After much discussion, Peter got up and addressed them: “Brothers, you know that some time ago God made a choice among you that the Gentiles might hear from my lips the message of the gospel and believe. 8 God, who knows the heart, showed that he accepted them by giving the Holy Spirit to them, just as he did to us. 9 He did not discriminate between us and them, for he purified their hearts by faith. 10 Now then, why do you try to test God by putting on the necks of Gentiles a yoke that neither we nor our ancestors have been able to bear? 11 No! We believe it is through the grace of our Lord Jesus that we are saved, just as they are.”
12 The whole assembly became silent as they listened to Barnabas and Paul telling about the signs and wonders God had done among the Gentiles through them. 13 When they finished, James spoke up. “Brothers,” he said, “listen to me. 14 Simon[a] has described to us how God first intervened to choose a people for his name from the Gentiles. 15 The words of the prophets are in agreement with this, as it is written:
16 “‘After this I will return
and rebuild David’s fallen tent.
Its ruins I will rebuild,
and I will restore it,
17 that the rest of mankind may seek the Lord,
even all the Gentiles who bear my name,
says the Lord, who does these things’[b]—
18 things known from long ago.[c]
19 “It is my judgment, therefore, that we should not make it difficult for the Gentiles who are turning to God. 20 Instead we should write to them, telling them to abstain from food polluted by idols, from sexual immorality, from the meat of strangled animals and from blood. 21 For the law of Moses has been preached in every city from the earliest times and is read in the synagogues on every Sabbath.”
The apostles and elders, your brothers,
To the Gentile believers in Antioch, Syria and Cilicia:
Greetings.
24 We have heard that some went out from us without our authorization and disturbed you, troubling your minds by what they said. 25 So we all agreed to choose some men and send them to you with our dear friends Barnabas and Paul— 26 men who have risked their lives for the name of our Lord Jesus Christ. 27 Therefore we are sending Judas and Silas to confirm by word of mouth what we are writing. 28 It seemed good to the Holy Spirit and to us not to burden you with anything beyond the following requirements: 29 You are to abstain from food sacrificed to idols, from blood, from the meat of strangled animals and from sexual immorality. You will do well to avoid these things.
Farewell.
30 So the men were sent off and went down to Antioch, where they gathered the church together and delivered the letter. 31 The people read it and were glad for its encouraging message. 32 Judas and Silas, who themselves were prophets, said much to encourage and strengthen the believers. 33 After spending some time there, they were sent off by the believers with the blessing of peace to return to those who had sent them. [34] [d] 35 But Paul and Barnabas remained in Antioch, where they and many others taught and preached the word of the Lord.
Sorry; too much mumbo-jumbo in your church today.
St. Peter would not recognize it.
Maybe so; but it beats the HELL out of what the MORMONs did here for a few years!
(Like the 17 years cicadas; they seem to have gone underground again...)
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Well, if they drop the pomp & circumstance, all this praying and veneration of human beings, all these meaningless titles of church nobility and all these strange rituals and speak in a plain language (drop the liquor and add chocolate wafers) that people can understand I might consider it.
Otherwise I will go with the definition I found in the Bible that any time two or more gather in HIS name, that is church. That is MY CHURCH.
I'll start with the correction of this grossly erroneous Q/A:
Q: So does this mean that Catholics believe Jesus is re-crucified every time a priest says the mass?
A: No. We believe the Eucharist is the living and resurrected Christ that is made present to us, who was once crucified, once and for all time, not to be misunderstood as to say that Christ is somehow re-sacrificed or re-crucified every time we celebrate the Holy Mass. That would be both blasphemy and nonsense. No, the communion we receive is the living and resurrected Jesus Christ who shares himself supernaturally with us. The sacrifice was offered (slain) 2,000 years ago, but has been consumed ever since.
From the catechism:
1367 The sacrifice of Christ and the sacrifice of the Eucharist are one single sacrifice: "The victim is one and the same: the same now offers through the ministry of priests, who then offered himself on the cross; only the manner of offering is different." "And since in this divine sacrifice which is celebrated in the Mass, the same Christ who offered himself once in a bloody manner on the altar of the cross is contained and is offered in an unbloody manner. . . this sacrifice is truly propitiatory."
But then again the New Mass is not truly propitiatory.
Blf
The posting of an article like this does nothing but create animosity between Protestants and Catholics. If one was sincere about their faith and desire to convert lost souls, then posting this (or applauding the post) would be the last thing they would do.
The entire original post can be summed up in two words.
PRIDE and CONFUSION
Neither which come from God
With his snarky, condescending replies.
Wake up, the protest is long over and catholics have been whining and gnashing of teeth every since. Enjoy the misery with 'man who is evil' now and for eternity. Christians are HOME!
Thank God for SAINT Luther for hearing and obeying The WORD. JESUS is The Word and the FINAL Authority.
A: The passage that some use to support the idea that Catholics shouldn't call a priest "father" is found in Matthew 23:9 wherein Jesus commanded his followers to call no man "teacher" or "father." This passage is commonly cited against the Catholic practise of calling priests "father." However, when we look at this passage in context we see that Jesus is not prohibiting the use of the word "father" but rather rebuking the religious leaders that do not serve their people. He is rebuking the Pharisees of his time because they are called "rabbi" (which literally means "teacher" or "great one") and accept the religious honour and prestige without embracing the sacrifice and humility that is supposed to go along with it. Jesus is commanding his disciples (later apostles) not to be like that.
Wrong. Jesus is instructing His disciples to not call any religious leader "Father". It's pretty obvious to anyone who is willing to believe that the command means what it says and says what it means.
Matthew 23:1-10 Then Jesus said to the crowds and to his disciples, “The scribes and the Pharisees sit on Moses' seat, so do and observe whatever they tell you, but not the works they do. For they preach, but do not practice. They tie up heavy burdens, hard to bear, and lay them on people's shoulders, but they themselves are not willing to move them with their finger. They do all their deeds to be seen by others. For they make their phylacteries broad and their fringes long, and they love the place of honor at feasts and the best seats in the synagogues and greetings in the marketplaces and being called rabbi by others. But you are not to be called rabbi, for you have one teacher, and you are all brothers. And call no man your father on earth, for you have one Father, who is in heaven. Neither be called instructors, for you have one instructor, the Christ.
The interesting thing is that Jesus said that His disciples were not to be called "rabbi" or "instructor" but He did not command them to not be called "father" but rather to call no man your father here on earth.
That precludes calling a priest *father* as part of his title. It is directly disobedient to the clear command and directive of Jesus Himself.
And we all know how Catholics elevate the words of Jesus as of more import than anything else written. Unless of course, they decide to disagree with it.
I just read the title and it is like perverts doing their enticing bit. It reeks!
Yep
“You have one father, who is in heaven”
That is a very clear statement.
‘Catholicism for Protestants’ on FR is akin to doing ‘Aretha Franklin for Cher fans’ - hopeless. The hate runs too deep.
I disagree. Man made teachings at Judgement Day leads to demotion/failure.
Grownups think for themselves and shun con men.
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