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1 posted on 08/29/2013 11:06:02 AM PDT by Gamecock
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And now for something completely different!
2 posted on 08/29/2013 11:06:59 AM PDT by Gamecock (Many Atheists take the stand: "There is no God AND I hate Him.")
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To: Gamecock

Funny.


3 posted on 08/29/2013 11:07:18 AM PDT by mbarker12474
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To: Gamecock

Modern church discipline is a form letter. Who knew?


4 posted on 08/29/2013 11:07:23 AM PDT by AD from SpringBay (http://jonah2eight.blogspot.com/)
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To: Gamecock

It’s all about $$$. Why? Because it always is...


5 posted on 08/29/2013 11:10:58 AM PDT by donozark (I'd rather go fishing with Putin than golfing with Obama...)
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To: Gamecock

James 2:14-26

New King James Version (NKJV)
Faith Without Works Is Dead

14 What does it profit, my brethren, if someone says he has faith but does not have works? Can faith save him? 15 If a brother or sister is naked and destitute of daily food, 16 and one of you says to them, “Depart in peace, be warmed and filled,” but you do not give them the things which are needed for the body, what does it profit? 17 Thus also faith by itself, if it does not have works, is dead.

18 But someone will say, “You have faith, and I have works.” Show me your faith without your[a] works, and I will show you my faith by my[b] works. 19 You believe that there is one God. You do well. Even the demons believe—and tremble! 20 But do you want to know, O foolish man, that faith without works is dead?[c] 21 Was not Abraham our father justified by works when he offered Isaac his son on the altar? 22 Do you see that faith was working together with his works, and by works faith was made perfect? 23 And the Scripture was fulfilled which says, “Abraham believed God, and it was accounted to him for righteousness.”[d] And he was called the friend of God. 24 You see then that a man is justified by works, and not by faith only.

25 Likewise, was not Rahab the harlot also justified by works when she received the messengers and sent them out another way?

26 For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also.


6 posted on 08/29/2013 11:11:04 AM PDT by Red Badger (It is dangerous to be right in matters where established men are wrong. .....Voltaire)
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I’m sorry, but is there actually something about Christianity with either side?

It seems like your average Mosque is more Christian these days than these worship warehouses.


7 posted on 08/29/2013 11:11:25 AM PDT by VanDeKoik
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To: Gamecock

Interesting. Have to think about this one a bit.


8 posted on 08/29/2013 11:13:50 AM PDT by DManA
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Afraid of breaking news to pastors, family now attends six churches
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Shutdown Season: Willow Creek Community Church Will Close its Doors for the Summer

10 posted on 08/29/2013 11:15:49 AM PDT by Alex Murphy (Just a common, ordinary, simple savior of America's destiny.)
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So, if you tossed a few bucks into the basket without signing your name then you’re donation wasn’t needed.


11 posted on 08/29/2013 11:18:56 AM PDT by bgill (This reply was mined before it was posted.)
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Yeah, it may be about not generating enough donation revenue. It may also be about requiring some minimum level of commitment to continue to partake of the freebies.

I'm not going to judge beyond saying that there is a surplus of nearly empty churches who ask little or nothing from their parishoners and a shortage of crowded churches which do ask something.

The megachurch form of worship is not for me. But they do a lot of people a lot of good. Our voting precinct is at a megachurch. Don't care for the style of worship, but they are nice people. They've always got an information table near the exit and invite departing voters to partake of muffins, cookies and/or coffee when they depart.

Once in a blue moon, I'll even attend a service and leave a couple of bucks in the collection basket out of appreciation for their niceness.

14 posted on 08/29/2013 11:27:26 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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Just another business, none of this, “You received free, give free”, stuff.


15 posted on 08/29/2013 11:36:14 AM PDT by count-your-change (you don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough)
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At first I thought their Bishops weren’t going to let them attend their temple unless they proved they were tithing 10%.

Then I realized this was a joke. No one in their right mind would give a bishop the power to deny a church member access to their church’s most holy place. That is between the believer and God.


24 posted on 08/29/2013 11:42:59 AM PDT by freedomlover
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Mega-churches are way to impersonal for me. It does seem like it is all about money (donations) to them. There are many Christian families struggling right now that could use some assistance. What do the mega-churches do? My experience is they steer you to some government organization. I have yet to see a mega church help any of its members who are not able to make full tithing donations. It just seems like there is an inner clique to these churches that seem quite elitist that seem to look down upon the neediest of Christian families.

I'm not saying all mega churches are bad, just my experience with the ones I've attended left me feeling like an outsider, very impersonal behavior from supposed Christians.

26 posted on 08/29/2013 11:45:06 AM PDT by jeffc (The U.S. media are our enemy)
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BTW... satire?

More like lampooning the whole mega church phenomena.

28 posted on 08/29/2013 11:47:10 AM PDT by jeffc (The U.S. media are our enemy)
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Very interesting. A lot of the mega churches grew big by asking non-believers what they wanted and giving it to them. Willow Creek, one of the biggies in the mega church category, actually went out and surveyed their community in designing their church. They let non-believers set the program: Make church more comfortable and “seeker sensitive”, even for people who are not actually seeking. Non-believers don’t want to hear about Hell. So don’t talk about it. They don’t want to hear about giving to God’s work, so don’t talk about it. Get rid of the crosses, hymns, etc. Don’t talk about doctrine, because that is boring. Just talk about whatever is deemed “relevant” by non-believers. Seems to me the church in question created their own problem. The message that these churches give is that you don't have to be involved. You don't have to support the ministries. You can go and be entertained without any actual commitment.
31 posted on 08/29/2013 11:52:57 AM PDT by rusty schucklefurd
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I prefer how my pastor handled this issue, by teaching!

http://www.legacychurchnm.com/index.cfm/pageid/2532/index.html#la=loaded&h=860&w=1040


34 posted on 08/29/2013 11:59:48 AM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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Interesting. I'm not a church person, but Jesus asked quite a bit of his followers.

I need to think about this one for a while to figure out what spirit this is done with before I could have an opinion to go with my initial reaction.

In the families I grew up in, you were to contribute, not be a burden. Not pulling your own way was definitely a sin in those family situations, as was waiting to be told to do something you saw needed to be done.

39 posted on 08/29/2013 12:13:56 PM PDT by GBA (Our obamanation: Romans 1:18-32)
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I realize that this is satire. But there is an element of truth. For example, no local synagogue will let you be a member unless you tithe. There are reductions for single parents, etc., but no freeloaders.


43 posted on 08/29/2013 12:30:35 PM PDT by peyton randolph (Tagline copyright in violation of Directive 10-289)
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Good Satire.


44 posted on 08/29/2013 12:42:30 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Kill Obamacare not wound it.)
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Kick out the old, poor and the lame. that is not a good deed.


45 posted on 08/29/2013 12:46:55 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Kill Obamacare not wound it.)
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