To: Mrs. Don-o; sasportas; metmom; bkaycee; Campion
There is not one dogma of the Catholic Church which is based on forged documents.But assuredly, all of her power IS.
What is disputable is that human sin and error --- examples of which are plentiful in the very pages of the New Testament, among the Apostles themselves --- negate the spiritual mission of the Church and indict its very foundation.
What negates her spiritual mission and indicts her foundation is forgeries and inclusions. And the fact that when the forgeries are found out, the forgeries remain to be cited, and the power amassed from them is not (ever) rescinded. But then if the forgeries were put aside, there would be no proofs at all for Rome's claims, so I can see why it is so. You see, absolute power corrupts absolutely.
74 posted on
09/02/2013 5:34:13 PM PDT by
roamer_1
(Globalism is just socialism in a business suit.)
To: roamer_1
>>You see, absolute power corrupts absolutely.<<
And it surely has in the RCC
75 posted on
09/02/2013 6:10:04 PM PDT by
CynicalBear
(For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ)
To: roamer_1; metmom; Campion
Your idea of what the "power" "amassed" by the Catholic Church consists of, or from whence it derives, needs to be reexamined. It does not consist of land grants and titles, most of which have long since lapsed, been relinquished, or were lost in the rough fast hassle of history. And it does not derive from dodgy papers planted in the archives by some 9th century Frankish librarian.
The documents of which you speak--- "Pseudo-Isidore" and "Donation of Constantine" --- were gone over with a fine-tooth over a period of centuries, literally, by critical-textual scholars (first Catholic, then Protestant) who were willing to do a lot of literary detective work. They were finally well and truly sorted out, with some of the documents found to be legitimate in every way, some of them true but plagiarized, and some of them fabricated (flat-out fraud.)
These are issues of not much interest to anybody today; I rather doubt that even any of the disputants here at FR have even read the whole article in the Catholic Encyclopedia (Link) in its entirety --- deadly dull it is, and small print to boot. (If anybody has, I tip my hat to you.)
So that should be that, except for leather-bound pedants and enthusiasts of sectarian jiggery-pokery, from whom graciously preserve us, O Lord.
But some clarification is needed: just what "amassed" "power" should I, as a Catholic, be on the lookout for?
These additional perspectives may possibly be of interest:
#67
...and...
#70
And now, bedtime for me, and peace to you. I'm up early tomorrow.
76 posted on
09/02/2013 6:47:42 PM PDT by
Mrs. Don-o
(When I grow up, I'm gonna settle down, chew honeycomb & drive a tractor, grow things in the ground.)
To: roamer_1
I'd think one of the major dogmas of the Roman Catholic Church - that of the infallibility of the Pope of Rome and his universal authority over all of Christendom - kinda makes any doctrine he asserts is a mandatory rule of the faith - even the infallible declaration that the Pope is infallible. The Assumption of Mary was one such dogma and, after the Pope declared it an infallible doctrine in 1950 as divinely revealed, it became necessary for the faithful to accept and believe or risk eternal damnation. That holds for ALL doctrines which pertain to faith and morals that the Pope decrees ex cathedra (from the chair) using his infallible charisma.
82 posted on
09/02/2013 10:20:54 PM PDT by
boatbums
(God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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