Skip to comments.Yet another Vatican PR debacle
Posted on 09/24/2013 6:01:28 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o
Whether you think The Interview was a coup or a disasteror something in betweenwe should all be able to agree that the Vaticans handling of the Popes blockbuster was another public-relations debacle.
Ironically, the Pontifical Council for Social Communications was meeting in Rome when the news broke. Greg Erlandson, the publisher of Our Sunday Visitor, who was at the meeting, observes that Church leaders had no warning about the interview. Secular media outlets received advance copies of the text under embargo. Bishops and their spokesmen didnt. Then the story broke, and Erlandson reports:
And as quick as you can say "Gotcha," bishops and communications directors were suddenly fielding interview requests for a story they had not seen and were unprepared for.
The Jesuit journals that published the papal interview did a remarkable job of keeping the story quiet until the day it broke. Thats good journalism; they preserved their scoop. But if they didnt give fair warning to the Vatican press office (which, remember, is directed by a Jesuit, Father Federico Lombardi), they deserve a scalding rebuke. If the press office did know what was coming, its inexcusable that other Church leaders werent briefed.
Between this and all the rest of the misery that I see Church initiatives spread throughout the world - pushing us towards socialism, ponying up to abortionists...
...AND MOST IMPORTANTLY CHURCH-GOERS BEING 'ORNAMENTAL CATHOLICS', PRAYING FOR ONE THING BUT THEN DOING ANOTHER...
...I really am rethinking my association with the Catholic Church. Christ may have passed on the keys to the Kingdom to Peter, but does that mean the rest of the line of succession has to be respected?
And they never get anything right.
I think plain-spokeness is a virtue that this pope is lacking, sadly.
My priest was Jesuit schooled and he said that Pope Francis is very indicative of the Jesuits. They like to be edgy like Jesus was edgy in his day. And most of all, they want to make people think.
I think Pope Francis succeedded on both accounts.
Well think about some of the kings of Israel...
Beyond that, Francis is a far cry from some of the complete loons who’ve sat in Peter’s seat. The answer to your quandary begins in St. John’s Gospel 6:67. Where else can we go?
It’s not just Francis, who is hit (talks about the Devil) and miss (this disastrous interview).
It’s the whole push to control and endless pushing of socialism and massive immigration, when it is clear that the massive immigration will do nothing but bring the Party of Death into permanent power.
It’s about the child abuse - I had to have fingerprinted this spring so I could volunteer with my Parish, while that scrotum Cardinal Mahoney went off to the Sistine Chapel to vote for a new Pope.
It’s about the massive hypocrisy that I see in members, going to functions espousing one thing, while at the same time somewhat publicly doing another , but claiming that they’re exempt - while at the same time trying to pass themselves off as a “Church Militant”.
It’s a bunch of things. Something is rotten.
They need to get Valls, that wonderful Catalan, back into the press office.
he sounds right on to me in what i read in the link.
The People of God are a pain in the... uh, neck... and have been since Moses led the Hebrews out of Egypt. This is nothing new.
Yes, why priests and bishops whose immediate predecessors roared against the evils of communism have become a pack of wild socialists is a devilish mystery. The way the lay faithful are being treated in the wake of the homosexual scandal in the priesthood is also infuriating. And yes, rampant hypocrisy is enough to make one want to become a donatist.
But in our time we have to take our eyes off the men and focus more than ever on the Lord, for He will never leave us or forsake us.
Jesus was NOT ‘edgy’. Jesus being both fully human and fully divine had a mission to fulfill. The pope no matter what else is true, does not fit that description. The pope may be human but he is NOT divine even though romans believe that he can speak for God under certain conditions. Jesus on the other hand spoke with the full authority that his divinity granted Him.
I get tired of all the back pedaling and dancing that Rome does in order to try and make sense out of nonsense
If it's a matter of "sinners in the Church"? That's been a headache from the very days when the Gospels were still wet ink. You will never find a single year or era in which the Catholic Church hasn't been rife with sinners. But if you're an adult equipped with the normal degree of critical sense, you'll know that that's true of all churches, faiths, and non-faiths: it's part of the human condition.
(I use this opportunity for an old chestnut):
Joe: I refuse to go to your church, Rosemary, it's full of hypocrites."Now if your objection is about mediocrity amongst the clergy, that's harder to take because we look to them for leadership and are so often disappointed. However, we need to keep in mind that the really important, and really interesting people in the Catholic Church, are not the priests, nor even the popes, but the saints.
Rosemary: "Heck, Joe, there's always room for one more."
And with that I say: will you not stay in he Church --- in the Communion of Saints --- with (OK, I'll name my favorites)
Do you think the "situations," including the religious milieux, in which these radiant people lived, were any less troubled? The Church less conflicted? The times less dangerous? The clergy less compromised? The Powers that Be less menacing? The World, the Flesh, and the Devil less crafty and seductive?
Come on, Yossarian. Even if this Noah's Ark of a Church is full of a thousand aggravating squawks and stinks, even if we have to shovel sh*t off the deck every day of our lives, it's The Ark. We're afloat. Jesus is seemingly asleep on the foredeck, but He knows everything, guides everyone, and can calm he wind and waves any time He wants to.
Buck up. You're here for a reason. Maybe just to pray for us all.
Bedtime for me now. Pray for me. G'Night, Yossarian.
I view Pope Francis being a “hybred”, meaning a Jesuit with a spirituality closer to that of the Francisians.
The Church is not a muesum of saints, but a hopsital for sinners, I among them.
Amen, and Amen again.