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Present Tribulation vs. Future Tribulation
bibleprophecyblog.com ^ | July 6, 2011 | Dr. Thomas Ice

Posted on 10/04/2013 2:11:50 PM PDT by jodyel

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To: wheat_grinder
>> This has turned just a tad nasty. Still civil but on the edge :-)<<

I see, nor do I feel, any nasty at all. It’s just a discussion as I see it. I doubt any of us have any feelings of nasty. Just a discussion and study of scripture. Shoot, I, at one time, believed like they do until I did more study. I certainly hope no one else is feeling nasty.

>> No matter what your take on this subject please be ready for pre, mid or post. Stay close to the Master and stay in His word.<<

We are in 100% agreement there.

>> As an aside, look into the 4 blood moons coming up. Pretty interesting.<<

I don’t think that’s an “aside” at all. I think it fits with prophesy perfectly. Just look at what happened during any of the past 4 blood moon times. Great point!

81 posted on 10/04/2013 6:57:17 PM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ)
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To: CynicalBear; wheat_grinder

I think this is interesting. Y’all keep going with it! Good stuff :)


82 posted on 10/04/2013 6:59:40 PM PDT by smvoice (HELP! I'm trapped inside this body and I can't get out!)
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To: CynicalBear
That should say “I don’t see, nor do I feel, any nasty at all.”
83 posted on 10/04/2013 6:59:44 PM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ)
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To: smvoice
>> I think this is interesting.<<

Same here. It was one of the most enlightening studies I’ve done. It shows what an awesome God we have. Understanding prophesy helps to understand so much else about what scripture teaches. It all makes sense when put in proper perspective.

84 posted on 10/04/2013 7:08:27 PM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ)
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To: fwdude

I believe that prophecy from our Creator through the Scriptures is for the past, present and future... similar to eternity past, present and eternity future. We cant wrap our finite brains around that....That is why His word is Truth... I don’t discount a literal 3.5 years(1260 days) but I can perfectly in history see where that has been fulfilled in part. I don’t discount a literal mark of the beast but I know the Seal of God is in the 4th commandment and His Sabbath and worship of Elohim on His Sabbath is a spiritual mark so why wouldn’t the mark of the beast counterfeit that ? I believe the mark exists today spiritually... and it is as subtle as our solar Gregorian calendar and five day work week... until this year, I read the bible with man made calendar in my brain..it is what we were taught... but the new moon and the exodus and passion week and feasts in Leviticus (and along with the story of Jericho in Joshua) I see He has a calendar -and a way to count a month- and then a week and His Sabbath is more Saturday or Sunday in our calendar then it was Tuesday for 4 weeks in July... when the Spirit led me in my study to the biblical calendar, I can see where the entire church is, I say with extreme humbleness, wrong using the world’s calendar.... so subtle.. but isn’t that exactly how the deceiver works? Stealing worship on God’s Sabbath and even have infighting within the church which Gregorian man made named day to worship...... but forget about having a church follow that right now... and you would be using vacation days midweek for four weeks because your work only works mon-fri...no church I know follows this and even the jewish calendar is man made... so that is why I can see revelation in the past, present and future.... none of us have it all figured out... that is why we all need His Mercy and Grace more than we all know or care to think about.... coming out of something like the worlds calendar extremely difficult...we like our three day weekends and two days off... none of that is scriptural either... safe to say I can’t be boxed into doctrinal disputes on sides when I am on an island on His Sabbath as it can be on any day in our Gregorian days of the week. And it changes on our calendar but the Sabbath is always the seventh day of His work week.. But the new moon is the key because His month begins with every new moon in scripture...and our calendars are solar only...


85 posted on 10/04/2013 7:11:54 PM PDT by delchiante
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To: lostboy61

Most Christians do not study the Torah or the Feasts. They cannot understand how the Feasts tell of the coming of Messiah and the end of times.


86 posted on 10/04/2013 7:23:10 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: CynicalBear

Sorry Bear, was not referencing you as nasty.


87 posted on 10/04/2013 7:26:35 PM PDT by wheat_grinder
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To: Georgia Girl 2

I don’t worry about things much at all.

The Lord always watches over me and protects me...has all my life.


88 posted on 10/04/2013 9:35:33 PM PDT by jodyel
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To: editor-surveyor

Disagree, but thanks for posting.


89 posted on 10/04/2013 9:36:22 PM PDT by jodyel
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To: CynicalBear

No!

The 144,000 are spread throughout the world, but the woman is guided to a pre set location.


90 posted on 10/04/2013 9:39:01 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: jodyel

The “wrath” is the bowl judgements that come right after the first resurrection, which came at the end of the trib (last or 7th trump).


92 posted on 10/04/2013 9:41:54 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: smvoice; CynicalBear; wheat_grinder

>> “I think this is interesting. Y’all keep going with it! Good stuff :)” <<

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Yes! This is stuff that we have to hammer out now, not wait for someone else to do it.


94 posted on 10/04/2013 9:45:50 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Hoodat; CynicalBear

>> “ The point is for us to have relationship with the Father now and plow forward with the kingdom of heaven in this life rather than turning our eyes away.” <<

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Yes, but the two are not mutually exclusive. We have to have both.


95 posted on 10/04/2013 9:48:28 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: CynicalBear; smvoice; editor-surveyor; wheat_grinder
"Understanding prophesy helps to understand so much else about what scripture teaches"

Amen CB!

It is part of doing the work of God...

"This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent."
"Now I tell you before it come, that, when it is come to pass, ye may believe that I am he"
"For God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind.Be not thou therefore ashamed of the testimony of our Lord..."
"...for the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy."
(John 6:29,John 13:19,2 Tim 1:7-8,Rev 19:10)

Some seem to think the study of prophecy is somehow an 'aside' to the main point.It is not,it is Jesus' testimony and proof of His Sovereignty.He is an "all-consuming fire".Believers would do well to be aquainted with it.

Luke 12:37-44
"Blessed are those servants, whom the lord when he cometh shall find watching: verily I say unto you, that he shall gird himself, and make them to sit down to meat, and will come forth and serve them.And if he shall come in the second watch, or come in the third watch, and find them so, blessed are those servants.And this know, that if the goodman of the house had known what hour the thief would come, he would have watched, and not have suffered his house to be broken through.Be ye therefore ready also: for the Son of man cometh at an hour when ye think not.Then Peter said unto him, Lord, speakest thou this parable unto us, or even to all?And the Lord said, Who then is that faithful and wise steward, whom his lord shall make ruler over his household, to give them their portion of meat in due season?Blessed is that servant, whom his lord when he cometh shall find so doing.Of a truth I say unto you, that he will make him ruler over all that he hath."

The servant that is watching will be blessed,the servant that gives "meat in due season" will be made ruler over His household.So Jesus says that when He comes He will bless that servant who is telling the household 'He is coming!'

So please do continue this fascinating topic!

Psalm 27:5
"For in the time of trouble he shall hide me in his pavilion: in the secret of his tabernacle shall he hide me; he shall set me up upon a rock"

Grace and peace to you all.

96 posted on 10/04/2013 10:17:41 PM PDT by mitch5501 ("make your calling and election sure: for if ye do these things ye shall never fall")
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To: editor-surveyor

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97 posted on 10/04/2013 11:14:51 PM PDT by jodyel
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To: wheat_grinder

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/3075012/posts


98 posted on 10/04/2013 11:15:10 PM PDT by jodyel
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To: Hoodat

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/3075012/posts


99 posted on 10/04/2013 11:15:36 PM PDT by jodyel
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To: Georgia Girl 2

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/3075012/posts


100 posted on 10/04/2013 11:15:49 PM PDT by jodyel
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