Posted on 10/04/2013 2:11:50 PM PDT by jodyel
Nope, the only ones who will be taken “through” it and protected with the mark of God will be the 144,000 Jews.
Been there done that. Scripturally flawed.
That “remnant” are the 144,000 Jews. 12,000 from each tribe.
The you would understand that there are seven years left for God to deal with the Jews. He cannot deal exclusively with the Jews if the church is still here. Compare that to the 7 days the bride and groom are secluded before coming out publicaly in a Jewish wedding. The bride of Christ will be in heaven secluded with Christ during the seven years of the tribulation after which they will return with Christ to earth to rule during the 1000 years.
I wholeheartedly agree on that point. It’s just that Jesus said “I would not have you ignorant” about the end of time and the signs are here that this world as we know it doesn’t have much time so urgency is paramount to alert those who can still make a decision. Even teaching about the rapture and what will follow for those who refuse who might realize after all those people disappear and make a decision.
Dont want to start any arguments. Please be ready for anything. I’ve been studying this for years but still cannot say with 100% certainty that I know what our Father has in store for us concerning rapture timing. Though I think you know which way I lean :-)
May Yahweh shine His face to you and be gracious to you.
Yes I did. See when His wrath is poured out. It is not throughout the entire trib it is towards the end.
Read about the Jewish wedding customs. Especially the seven days time the bride and groom spend sequestered before coming out publicly. It’s the same as the seven years we spend with Christ before coming out publicly at the end of the tribulation.
Revelation 7:13 And one of the elders answered, saying unto me, What are these which are arrayed in white robes? and whence came they? 14 And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.
And that is prior to the seven bowls or the last 3 ½ years of the seven years. Notice they have already come out of the great tribulation of the seals. The bowls are yet to come. It is shown that all seven years are called the tribulation.
There is nothing in any prophecy that calls for the bride of Yeshua to be in heaven in seclusion for 7 years.
They return immediately to defeat his enemies.
Revelation 6:17 For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?
That proclamation is at the beginning of the seven years.
>> “Nope, the only ones who will be taken “through” it and protected with the mark of God will be the 144,000 Jews.” <<
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You’ve already forgotten about “The Woman?” Protected for a time and times and a half a time?
So true. The time the bride of Christ will be with Yeshua is 7 days. After that time is a time of preparation. The wedding chamber is sealed and we prepare for 7 days. Then we return mounted on white horses to defeat the enemies of God and start the millenial reign.
That makes no sense either from a prophesy standpoint or the symbolism of the Jewish wedding. Daniels 70th week shows God once again dealing exclusively with Israel and the Jews as a nation to “make an end of sin”.
No I haven’t. The “woman” is Israel and she is protected through the 144,000 which are sealed and protected during the last 3 ½ years during which the anti Christ has set himself up in the temple as God. The times can also be seen in the story of King Nebuchadnezzar was crazy for “seven times” or seven years.
Dan 4:32 And they shall drive thee from men, and thy dwelling shall be with the beasts of the field: they shall make thee to eat grass as oxen, and seven times shall pass over thee, until thou know that the most High ruleth in the kingdom of men, and giveth it to whomsoever he will.
So “times and times and a half time” is 3 ½ years.
That is 7 years.
“That is 7 years”
Well if a day is as a thousand years to the lord than don’t you mean it will be 7000 years?
Sometimes it is what it is. The Wedding Feast is 7 days. Not 7 years or 7000 years.
Wow! You would have to show how that ties in to this conversation.
Now the seven years is part of not only Daniels prophesy but others as well.
You are not fare from the truth of Torah and the words of Yeshua. We do not know the time or the day as the feast of Trumps is a two day feast. Two witnesses at the gate look for the sign of the start of the feast. They send word to the high priest and counsel of the new moon and the first trump is sounded so the people will know the feast has started. That is why Yeshue said he did not know the time only the Father knows.
This has turned just a tad nasty. Still civil but on the edge :-)
No matter what your take on this subject please be ready for pre, mid or post. Stay close to the Master and stay in His word.
As an aside, look into the 4 blood moons coming up. Pretty interesting.
Later.
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