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Blacks Ridiculed again by the Mormon Church.
thyblackman.com ^ | Sept. 12, 2013 | Staff writer; Lee Baker

Posted on 10/10/2013 5:11:31 AM PDT by Colofornian

(ThyBlackMan.com) For several years now, every Tuesday evening I have had the great privilege of addressing the Christian and Mormon listeners of Worship FM 101.7 in Monrovia, the capital City of Liberia, West Africa. I have come to know several of the station managers and a number of the more frequent callers to the weekly program. Through their comments, questions and photographs, I have been genuinely moved to see the application of their faith in the Lord Jesus Christ.

Over the past few months the question of racist teachings in the Book of Mormon and from the past Leadership of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints has been on the minds of the Liberian converts to Mormonism and the many Christians who struggle to understand how such a Church can be growing in Africa.

I believe the answer is relatively simple; it has been the perfect merging of a sincere lack of knowledge on the part of the Mormon converts and a disturbing lack of accountability on the part of the Mormon leaders. A near total lack of knowledge across Africa specific to some of the more explicit teachings found within the Mormon Scriptures, principally that Black Skin[1] is a representation of wickedness and even less information concerning the racism and bigotry openly and officially taught by the early Leadership of the Mormon Church. This combined with the current Church Leadership’s inability to clearly and specifically reject its own racist teachings both in print and from its past Senior Leadership, has left the Black Race with only a short irresponsible and offensively juvenile Official Statement[2] that claims the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints knows very little about its own race-based policy that had lasted for well over 100 years:

“It is not known precisely why, how or when this restriction began in the Church, but it has ended.”

Maintaining a detailed and comprehensive history of every aspect and teaching of the Church has been both one of the hallmarks and one of the downfalls of Mormon Church. Within the relatively young Church, authoritative documentation, however corrupt it may have been, has never been in short supply. Each of the Senior Leaders of the Mormon Church has had several official biographers as well as an army of Church authorized historians to record for the faithful Mormon all facets of the History of the Church. In fact, one of my first of many “Callings” in the Mormon Church was that of a Ward (Congregational) Historian, long before I became a Bishop.

The peculiar assertion that the Mormon Church itself does not know the details of its very own race-based policy of restricting the Blacks from holding the Priesthood is tremendously embarrassing for all Mormons and exceptionally degrading for anyone who actually believes it.

As a former local leader of the Mormon Church, I have repeatedly assured the African members of the Mormon Church that the documents and “Scriptures” I have read to them over the air are both Authorized and Official for the time period they are relevant to. I clearly state the current position of total acceptance of all Races by the Church, but I must highlight the fact that the Book of Mormon still carries it’s obviously racist message that dark skin was a curse and Jesus was white. I have said many times on-air that like the Mormon Missionaries, I too believe that every African should have a copy of the Book of Mormon, if only to learn the truly racist teaching of the Mormons.

I have and will continue to teach the African Nations from the authentic Mormon Scriptures and the Church History documents, which I had purchased from the Mormon Church to know my past responsibilities as a Mormon Bishop. The official records of the Mormon Church include many jokes and sermons given within the Official Semi-Annual General Conference of the faithful Mormons, using the “N-word”, Darky and Sambo. Additionally, these Church published books record nearly 100 graphic sermons and lessons that clearly teach the principle, practice and policy that Black Skin was, is and will remain forever the Curse of Cain.

Only in the recent past has the “Complete History” of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints come to the attention of its own membership, much less to the under developed regions of the world. As this information is discovered, an ever increasing number of members of the Mormon Church have come into a personal crisis of faith, most notably Elder Hans Mattsson[3] of Sweden, a General Authority of the Mormon Church who has gone public with his doubts and questions.

Not unique to Africa, has been the Mormon Church’s training of young Missionaries to strictly avoid any discussion of several of the more embarrassing, yet true, teachings of the 183 year old Church. Chief among these subjects has been Polygamy and Blacks and the Priesthood. With the smooth talent of a skilled politician, the Mormon Church has ended its Official Statement with the following hypocritical and deceitful, but technically accurate quote:

“The origins of priesthood availability are not entirely clear. Some explanations with respect to this matter were made in the absence of direct revelation and references to these explanations are sometimes cited in publications. These previous personal statements do not represent Church doctrine.”

As a former Mormon Bishop and member of the Mormon Church for over 32 years, let me be of some help with the translation of this very carefully crafted message. The two key noteworthy phrases are: “in the absence of direct revelation” and “These previous personal statements do not represent Church doctrine.”

I will address the most obvious first, clearly the “previous statements” from the Church and its Leadership “do not” represent the Church doctrine today. The policy was reversed in 1978 and there is no question as to the policy today. The hypocritical deception is that between 1845 and 1978 those “statements” did, very much “DID” not “DO” represent past Church doctrine. Yet, I do give full credit to the clever Mormon authors and editors for their most skillful use of the English language.

And finally, the most revealing and enlightening statement from the Mormon Church is: “in the absence of direct revelation”. So then, it is incredibly true and accurate that without any mockery or sarcasm; The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints had for nearly 100 years, restricted a significant portion of the human race, millions and millions from God’s intended blessings of Eternal Marriage, Salvation and even Godhood, without knowing why they did it, all without “direct revelation”?

This Official Statement of religious shame and embarrassment comes from the Headquarters of a Church that claims to be guided in all things by “direct revelation”. How then, did such an exclusive doctrine based on prejudice, bigotry and racism become so accepted, so authoritative, so convincing and so commanding for so long, without “direct revelation”?

As a former Bishop of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, I give testimony that what they have stated is true, in that, they are racist and do not hide the History of the Church from its members or the public, this, their Official Statement on Race and the Church demonstrates that fact.

I believe that the truly wicked teachings as well as the repulsive history of the Mormon Church concerning Polygamy, Polyandry, Blood Atonement, and Blacks and the Priesthood is available for those who have eyes to see and ears to hear.

It is my prayer that all Mormons and non-Mormons will come to know the true history of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. That every man, woman and young adult on the earth today will find the time to read the Book of Mormon, the Doctrine and Covenants and the Pearl of Great Price from cover to cover to see the deception they hold, and then… read the Word of God with the eyes of a child, and follow the true Jesus, the true Christ found only in the Bible.

Via Former Mormon Bishop

Staff Writer; Lee Baker


TOPICS: History; Ministry/Outreach; Other non-Christian; Theology
KEYWORDS: blacks; lds; ldschurch; mormonism; racism
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From this West African article -- including a comment upon an official Mormon church statement re: why blacks were denied Mormon priesthood -- something open even to 12 year old white boys:
For several years now, every Tuesday evening I have had the great privilege of addressing the Christian and Mormon listeners of Worship FM 101.7 in Monrovia, the capital City of Liberia, West Africa. I have come to know several of the station managers and a number of the more frequent callers to the weekly program. Through their comments, questions and photographs, I have been genuinely moved to see the application of their faith in the Lord Jesus Christ. Over the past few months the question of racist teachings in the Book of Mormon and from the past Leadership of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints has been on the minds of the Liberian converts to Mormonism and the many Christians who struggle to understand how such a Church can be growing in Africa. I believe the answer is relatively simple; it has been the perfect merging of a sincere lack of knowledge on the part of the Mormon converts and a disturbing lack of accountability on the part of the Mormon leaders. A near total lack of knowledge across Africa specific to some of the more explicit teachings found within the Mormon Scriptures, principally that Black Skin[1] is a representation of wickedness and even less information concerning the racism and bigotry openly and officially taught by the early Leadership of the Mormon Church. This combined with the current Church Leadership’s inability to clearly and specifically reject its own racist teachings both in print and from its past Senior Leadership, has left the Black Race with only a short irresponsible and offensively juvenile Official Statement[2] that claims the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints knows very little about its own race-based policy that had lasted for well over 100 years: “It is not known precisely why, how or when this restriction began in the Church, but it has ended.”

This author references "explicit teachings found within the Mormon Scriptures...how Black Skin[1] is a representation of wickedness..."

What are some of these verses -- as found in the Book of Mormon?

* "And he had caused the cursing to come upon them, yea, even a sore cursing, BECAUSE OF THEIR INIQUITY. For behold, they had hardened their hearts against him, that they had become like unto a flint; wherefore, as they were white, and exceeding fair and delightsome, that they might not be enticing unto my people the Lord God did cause a skin of blackness to come upon them." (2 Nephi 5:21)

* "And the skins of the Lamanites were dark, according to the mark which was set upon their fathers, WHICH WAS A CURSE UPON THEM BECAUSE OF THEIR TRANSGRESSION AND THEIR REBELLION AGAINST THEIR BRETHREN..." (Alma 3:6)

* "Behold, the Lamanites your brethren, whom ye hate because of their filthiness and the cursing which hath come upon their skins..." (Jacob 3:5)

* "And their curse was taken from them, and their skin became white like unto the Nephites." (3 Nephi 2:15) [Note: So...to be "uncursed" is to have your skin turn white]

See also: See Posts #1 & #3

1 posted on 10/10/2013 5:11:31 AM PDT by Colofornian
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From the article written by a former Lds bishop and 32-year member of the Mormon church ... more comment upon official race statements from the Mormon church:
With the smooth talent of a skilled politician, the Mormon Church has ended its Official Statement with the following hypocritical and deceitful, but technically accurate quote: “The origins of priesthood availability are not entirely clear. Some explanations with respect to this matter were made in the absence of direct revelation and references to these explanations are sometimes cited in publications. These previous personal statements do not represent Church doctrine.” As a former Mormon Bishop and member of the Mormon Church for over 32 years, let me be of some help with the translation of this very carefully crafted message. The two key noteworthy phrases are: “in the absence of direct revelation” and “These previous personal statements do not represent Church doctrine.” I will address the most obvious first, clearly the “previous statements” from the Church and its Leadership “do not” represent the Church doctrine today. The policy was reversed in 1978 and there is no question as to the policy today. The hypocritical deception is that between 1845 and 1978 those “statements” did, very much “DID” not “DO” represent past Church doctrine. Yet, I do give full credit to the clever Mormon authors and editors for their most skillful use of the English language.

From the article -- an excellent summary:

And finally, the most revealing and enlightening statement from the Mormon Church is: “in the absence of direct revelation”. So then, it is incredibly true and accurate that without any mockery or sarcasm; The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints had for nearly 100 years, restricted a significant portion of the human race, millions and millions from God’s intended blessings of Eternal Marriage, Salvation and even Godhood, without knowing why they did it, all without “direct revelation”? This Official Statement of religious shame and embarrassment comes from the Headquarters of a Church that claims to be guided in all things by “direct revelation”. How then, did such an exclusive doctrine based on prejudice, bigotry and racism become so accepted, so authoritative, so convincing and so commanding for so long, without “direct revelation”?


2 posted on 10/10/2013 5:13:02 AM PDT by Colofornian
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To: flaglady47

Exposure is not hatred, it’s just exposure


4 posted on 10/10/2013 5:25:20 AM PDT by svcw (Socialism is so great, that it will be forced on you.)
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To: flaglady47

—agree—these endless wastes of bandwidth are a disgrace-—


5 posted on 10/10/2013 5:26:46 AM PDT by rellimpank (--don't believe anything the media or government says about firearms or explosives--)
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To: flaglady47

Please, identify the anti-mormon parts of the post as opposed to the exposure of mormonISM


6 posted on 10/10/2013 5:26:56 AM PDT by svcw (Socialism is so great, that it will be forced on you.)
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To: flaglady47

So what you are saying is that exposing the racism of the Mormon Church is considering hatred of it?


7 posted on 10/10/2013 5:27:42 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (I’m not a Republican, I'm a Conservative! Pubbies haven't been conservative since before T.R.)
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To: rellimpank

This is the Religion Forum, if you aren’t interested in discussions of religion, why not do something else?


8 posted on 10/10/2013 5:32:38 AM PDT by svcw (Socialism is so great, that it will be forced on you.)
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To: Colofornian

Galatians chapter 3:26-28.

Will be in stand off mode, awaiting to dive in!


9 posted on 10/10/2013 5:44:43 AM PDT by mdmathis6
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To: flaglady47

When does posting truth become hate?


10 posted on 10/10/2013 5:53:41 AM PDT by Anton.Rutter
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To: Anton.Rutter

Have you ever noticed the people who scream ‘hate’, will not tell anyone what the hate was?


11 posted on 10/10/2013 6:09:10 AM PDT by svcw (Socialism is so great, that it will be forced on you.)
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To: Colofornian
Low Information Mormons have most likely never done their proper homework.
12 posted on 10/10/2013 6:24:17 AM PDT by Utah Binger (Southern Utah where the world comes to see America)
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To: Colofornian
As a former local leader of the Mormon Church, I have repeatedly assured the African members of the Mormon Church that the documents and “Scriptures” I have read to them over the air are both Authorized and Official for the time period they are relevant to.

Say whaaat?

The Scriptures I read are "relevant" to all time periods.

Of course the Scriptures I read were not made up by a scam artist/con man/thief/polygamous/wife stealing/pedophile/false prophet.

13 posted on 10/10/2013 6:25:03 AM PDT by Graybeard58 (_.. ._. .. _. _._ __ ___ ._. . ___ ..._ ._ ._.. _ .. _. .)
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To: Colofornian
I have and will continue to teach the African Nations from the authentic Mormon Scriptures and the Church History documents

Blatant contradiction in terms or oxymoron? One of you grammar pros help me out.

15 posted on 10/10/2013 6:33:43 AM PDT by Graybeard58 (_.. ._. .. _. _._ __ ___ ._. . ___ ..._ ._ ._.. _ .. _. .)
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To: Colofornian

The Negroes: They were less valiant in the preexistence and that is why the god of Mormonism turned their skin black and endowed them with other disadvantages; and they became uncouth, uncomely, disagreeable, low in their habits, and deprived of nearly all the blessings of the intelligence that is generally bestowed upon mankind – a dark, and loathsome, and filthy people, full of idleness and all manner of abominations; unlike the good Mormons that are white, and exceedingly fair and delightsome.

In my opinion, just as interesting as the history of vile racism practiced by the LDS Church against Blacks, American Indians and Hispanics are:

The real reasons for the change in Church's position, specifically:

  1. Damage to Church recruiting efforts, particularly among the Mulatto population in Brazil
  2. Bad publicity to the Church following Dr. King's successful civil rights campaign and their glaring remnant of overt discrimination
  3. Rumors of the impending loss of non-tax status for their massive business empire

The obvious dilemma resulting from the change in position, specifically:

  1. Either, Joseph Smith, Brigham Young and other Church leaders were false prophets and bigots, or
  2. The later Church leaders who made the alterations were (are) false prophets, or
  3. Mormonism's god is a spiritual being of limited intelligence who is subject to making stupid proclamations and then belatedly correcting his errors, or
  4. All of the above

The obvious implication associated with altering holy scripture, specifically the question of how anyone can possibly regard Mormon writings as sacred and unimpugnable when the Church's own leadership impugns it ... substantially and frequently.

17 posted on 10/10/2013 6:50:17 AM PDT by Zakeet (Democrats haven't destroyed your freedoms ... you can still visit them at the Smithsonian)
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To: Anton.Rutter

“When does posting truth become hate?”

When you do it week after week after week, as nauseum. It’s a sickness, isn’t it.


18 posted on 10/10/2013 7:05:56 AM PDT by flaglady47 (When the gov't fears the people, liberty; When the people fear the gov't, tyranny.)
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To: flaglady47

ad nauseuum above. Typo.


19 posted on 10/10/2013 7:06:46 AM PDT by flaglady47 (When the gov't fears the people, liberty; When the people fear the gov't, tyranny.)
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To: flaglady47

I do not remember reading where God Almighty said “oh, I am so sorry you find truth offensive, I’ll stop now and in a few weeks we’ll talk again”


20 posted on 10/10/2013 7:12:25 AM PDT by svcw (Socialism is so great, that it will be forced on you.)
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To: flaglady47
ad nauseuum above

Thank you. We're all refreshed and challenged by your unique point of view. Now where did you put that view again?

21 posted on 10/10/2013 7:15:00 AM PDT by Godzilla (3/7/77)
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To: flaglady47
Up your ... oh never mind.

Is that the best you have to offer? Tsk, tsk. Try providing substantive comments on the subject rather than such drivel.

23 posted on 10/10/2013 7:32:00 AM PDT by Godzilla (3/7/77)
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To: flaglady47; Colofornian; Zakeet
“When does posting truth become hate?”

When you do it week after week after week, as nauseum. It’s a sickness, isn’t it.

________________________________________________

There you have it ladies and gentlemen, FR is full of hate and sickness! Must be since all you see on FR is one poster after another bashing libs.

Let's just shut this entire website down!

< /sarc>

24 posted on 10/10/2013 7:41:03 AM PDT by Gamecock (Many Atheists take the stand: "There is no God AND I hate Him.")
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To: Godzilla

snicker


25 posted on 10/10/2013 7:45:28 AM PDT by svcw (Socialism is so great, that it will be forced on you.)
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To: SZonian

Do “conservatives” also order that former members of Scientology and Islam be silenced, and all speech about those cults curtailed?


27 posted on 10/10/2013 9:18:21 AM PDT by Anton.Rutter
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To: Anton.Rutter

Around here, there are certain “protected” species. If you post anything that undermines the standing of said species, or conflicts with the PR campaigns from said species, the claws come out.

It’s funny that so-called “conservatives” resort to progressive, Alinskyite tactics while accusing their targets of being liberals and such.

Ah the wonders of FR...they never cease to amaze.


28 posted on 10/10/2013 9:42:57 AM PDT by SZonian (Throwing our allegiances to political parties in the long run gave away our liberty.)
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To: flaglady47
“When does posting truth become hate?” When you do it week after week after week, as nauseum. It’s a sickness, isn’t it.

Couldn't an Obama supporter say exactly the same thing about almost every political thread on Free Republic which illustrates the falsehoods of the Obama Administration? Those with things to hide always complain about light being shined on them.

30 posted on 10/10/2013 10:22:59 AM PDT by CommerceComet (Enough with politicians, this conservative is only voting for someone with courage and conviction.)
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To: flaglady47; Godzilla; All
Zilla, it almost sounds like the titillation brought on by your derriere got somebody a bit temporarily flustered. (You really need to stop flexing those poster muscles)
31 posted on 10/10/2013 10:23:02 AM PDT by Colofornian
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To: flaglady47

Why not just defend Mormonism if you want, or argue against the Christian view of the Mormon religion if you choose, why the purely personal attacks if you actually have something to say?


33 posted on 10/10/2013 10:39:29 AM PDT by ansel12
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When you do it week after week after week, as nauseum. It’s a sickness, isn’t it.

(Apparently some disapproving thread dabblers need truth disseminated in dainty diluted digestible dosages delivered in less than double-digit lifetime portions...
...otherwise truth becomes a bit difficult to dodge)

35 posted on 10/10/2013 10:47:09 AM PDT by Colofornian
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To: ansel12

(May I suggest the ammo shelf is a bit emptied?)


36 posted on 10/10/2013 10:48:18 AM PDT by Colofornian
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To: Mr. Lucky
Thank you...

...kind of like a certain Divine One...who was so "obsessed" over the lostness of mankind...He...
"did not consider equality with God something to be used to his own advantage; 7 rather, he made himself nothing by taking the very nature of a servant, being made in human likeness. 8 And being found in appearance as a man, he humbled himself by becoming obedient to death— even death on a cross!" (Phil. 2:6-8)

I mean, what God would do that for you, Mr. Lucky, and for me?

CS Lewis was said to have once compared it to a man who would become a frog to save all the frogs of the world...and even that parallel doesn't even come close to fathoming the huge gap 'tween God & man ...

[...Despite Mormon leader claims that the study of God is pure anthropology ONLY...claims that say God and man have always been "one species"]

37 posted on 10/10/2013 10:54:03 AM PDT by Colofornian
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From the article -- as related by an ex-West African Lds bishop & 32-year member of the Mormon church:

The official records of the Mormon Church include many jokes and sermons given within the Official Semi-Annual General Conference of the faithful Mormons, using the “N-word”, Darky and Sambo. Additionally, these Church published books record nearly 100 graphic sermons and lessons that clearly teach the principle, practice and policy that Black Skin was, is and will remain forever the Curse of Cain.

What do Mormons think of this? Does it sound like these men were the "voice"/spokesmen of the One True God?

38 posted on 10/10/2013 11:07:50 AM PDT by Colofornian
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To: flaglady47

So truth becomes hate if you post too much of it? How does that work, exactly?

Methinks some truths just make certain people uncomfortable.


39 posted on 10/10/2013 11:14:02 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Colofornian

These men were the voice/spokesman of someone!


41 posted on 10/10/2013 11:52:08 AM PDT by Gamecock (Many Atheists take the stand: "There is no God AND I hate Him.")
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To: Mr. Lucky

A little obsession with truth is never a bad thing. Indeed it is in short supply as I look around our land...


42 posted on 10/10/2013 11:59:45 AM PDT by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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To: flaglady47; Colofornian

Does your church ever get tired of calling people of color, such as those from Tonga, Lamanites?

Does your church ever get tired of telling the rest of us are wrong?

Does your church ever get tired of attempting to co-opt Christianity by telling us “I am Christian”?

Does your church ever get tired of telling us how wonderful Joseph Smith is/was and white washing his history?

Does your church ever tire of telling us we are apostates, whores of babylon, gracers and that we can never get to heaven without your authority and being Mormon?

Why do you require us to have a passport and pass by Joseph Smith before entering heaven?


43 posted on 10/10/2013 12:01:10 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: flaglady47
So you have grown sick of hearing that Obama is a failure? That liberals are destroying America? Are repeating these facts an illness in your mind?
44 posted on 10/10/2013 12:01:44 PM PDT by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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To: Anton.Rutter

Of course not, but it s indeed a two what street...


46 posted on 10/10/2013 12:03:16 PM PDT by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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Two way...


47 posted on 10/10/2013 12:03:44 PM PDT by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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To: jimt

Do you even think at all before typing...


49 posted on 10/10/2013 12:06:04 PM PDT by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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