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Men Not Allowed to Say 'Jesus' in Chaplain Class: Lawsuit
NBC Channel 7 San Diego ^ | 11/8/13 | Andie Adams and Steven Luke

Posted on 11/09/2013 6:35:22 AM PST by marshmallow

Two men claim the San Diego VA religiously persecuted them

Two men claim they were religiously persecuted by the Department of Veterans Affairs San Diego during a class meant for chaplains, according to a lawsuit filed Friday.

In its lawsuit, the Conservative Baptist Association of America alleges that two of its members – a retired Army major and a sailor-- were repeatedly told by an instructor not to use Jesus’ name or quote the Bible as they went through the VA-run class, which applicants must take to become a chaplain inside the hospital.

"Anytime you tell somebody you can’t pray in Jesus' name and you’re a chaplain, you are acting inappropriately because you're regulating and censoring their religious rights,” said the plaintiff’s attorney, John B. Wells.

But the program’s supervisor says the two men were bullying other classmates and refusing to honor other faith groups.

In a statement, the VA says the supervisor in question is a Southern Baptist of 35 years who is required to follow the VA Handbook.

(Excerpt) Read more at nbcsandiego.com ...


TOPICS: Current Events; Evangelical Christian; Ministry/Outreach; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: baptist; jesus; religiouspersecution

1 posted on 11/09/2013 6:35:22 AM PST by marshmallow
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To: marshmallow

No King, but King Jesus!


2 posted on 11/09/2013 6:46:19 AM PST by Jeff Head
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To: marshmallow

Chaplin: a priest or other Christian religious leader who performs religious services for a military group (such as the army) or for a prison, hospital, etc. What do they want him to do quote the Koran and tell everyone about Allah? If a chaplin cannot quote the bible and say Jesus, then the VA needs to change the name from chaplin to counselor. And I want to see a copy of the VA handbook!


3 posted on 11/09/2013 6:58:15 AM PST by ImNotLying (Obama's Biggest Lie: If you like your Constitution, you can keep it.)
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4 posted on 11/09/2013 6:59:10 AM PST by narses (... unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you do not have life within you.)
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To: marshmallow

At the name of JESUS demons tremble...

ROMANS 4:11
“’As surely as I live,’ says the LORD, ‘every knee will bow before ME; every tongue will acknowledge GOD.’”


5 posted on 11/09/2013 7:00:47 AM PST by stars & stripes forever (Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord.)
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To: marshmallow

Isn’t that particular name key to driving out demons?

Wouldn’t saying it create a hostile work environment?


6 posted on 11/09/2013 7:30:51 AM PST by null and void (I'm betting on an Obama Trifecta: A Nobel Peace Prize, an Impeachment, AND a War Crimes Trial...)
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To: marshmallow
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7 posted on 11/09/2013 8:20:15 AM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: null and void

So are you saying that chaplains should not proclaim the Gospel using the name of Jesus Christ?


8 posted on 11/09/2013 8:21:19 AM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: marshmallow

I could see Wiccan chaplains taking offense. Other denominations/religiousn, not so much.


9 posted on 11/09/2013 8:27:18 AM PST by married21 ( As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.)
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To: Salvation
Well, it does upset the demons...
10 posted on 11/09/2013 8:39:29 AM PST by null and void (I'm betting on an Obama Trifecta: A Nobel Peace Prize, an Impeachment, AND a War Crimes Trial...)
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To: null and void

I doubt that any soldier fighting for a just cause wants the demons around. Good riddance!

“No atheists in foxholes.” Remember that old saying?


11 posted on 11/09/2013 8:49:40 AM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

That’s nice. Who are we recruiting theses days again?

Are “we” (that is to say obama) fighting for a just cause?

BTW, didja catch the news today? obama unilaterally and secretly abrogated the embargo on Iran a few months ago. And also how Jean Carrié green-lighted Iran’s nuclear weapons program in the Geneva meeting?

Which side would a celestial observer say “we” are on again?


12 posted on 11/09/2013 8:57:53 AM PST by null and void (I'm betting on an Obama Trifecta: A Nobel Peace Prize, an Impeachment, AND a War Crimes Trial...)
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To: null and void

And that is good.


13 posted on 11/09/2013 10:01:47 AM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

Not if you are a demon, it isn’t.

And if you are a demon in a position to set the rules, well, you set the rules.


14 posted on 11/09/2013 10:05:08 AM PST by null and void (I'm betting on an Obama Trifecta: A Nobel Peace Prize, an Impeachment, AND a War Crimes Trial...)
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To: marshmallow

In physical therapy there, a woman aggressively proselytizes for Islam, and on some office walls you will see new age religious slogans and symbols.


15 posted on 11/09/2013 10:39:23 AM PST by ansel12 ( Democrats-"a party that since antebellum times has been bent on the dishonoring of humanity.)
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To: ImNotLying
Chaplin is a comedy character with a derby hat, baggy pants, way-oversized brogues, and a Hitler-type mustache.

Chaplain is the title of the religious officer of a secular organization.

FYI

16 posted on 11/22/2013 5:30:43 AM PST by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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