Skip to comments.Men Not Allowed to Say 'Jesus' in Chaplain Class: Lawsuit
Posted on 11/09/2013 6:35:22 AM PST by marshmallow
Two men claim the San Diego VA religiously persecuted them
Two men claim they were religiously persecuted by the Department of Veterans Affairs San Diego during a class meant for chaplains, according to a lawsuit filed Friday.
In its lawsuit, the Conservative Baptist Association of America alleges that two of its members a retired Army major and a sailor-- were repeatedly told by an instructor not to use Jesus name or quote the Bible as they went through the VA-run class, which applicants must take to become a chaplain inside the hospital.
"Anytime you tell somebody you cant pray in Jesus' name and youre a chaplain, you are acting inappropriately because you're regulating and censoring their religious rights, said the plaintiffs attorney, John B. Wells.
But the programs supervisor says the two men were bullying other classmates and refusing to honor other faith groups.
In a statement, the VA says the supervisor in question is a Southern Baptist of 35 years who is required to follow the VA Handbook.
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No King, but King Jesus!
Chaplin: a priest or other Christian religious leader who performs religious services for a military group (such as the army) or for a prison, hospital, etc. What do they want him to do quote the Koran and tell everyone about Allah? If a chaplin cannot quote the bible and say Jesus, then the VA needs to change the name from chaplin to counselor. And I want to see a copy of the VA handbook!
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At the name of JESUS demons tremble...
“’As surely as I live,’ says the LORD, ‘every knee will bow before ME; every tongue will acknowledge GOD.’”
Isn’t that particular name key to driving out demons?
Wouldn’t saying it create a hostile work environment?
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So are you saying that chaplains should not proclaim the Gospel using the name of Jesus Christ?
I could see Wiccan chaplains taking offense. Other denominations/religiousn, not so much.
I doubt that any soldier fighting for a just cause wants the demons around. Good riddance!
“No atheists in foxholes.” Remember that old saying?
That’s nice. Who are we recruiting theses days again?
Are “we” (that is to say obama) fighting for a just cause?
BTW, didja catch the news today? obama unilaterally and secretly abrogated the embargo on Iran a few months ago. And also how Jean Carrié green-lighted Iran’s nuclear weapons program in the Geneva meeting?
Which side would a celestial observer say “we” are on again?
And that is good.
Not if you are a demon, it isn’t.
And if you are a demon in a position to set the rules, well, you set the rules.
In physical therapy there, a woman aggressively proselytizes for Islam, and on some office walls you will see new age religious slogans and symbols.
Chaplain is the title of the religious officer of a secular organization.