Posted on 11/19/2013 6:10:28 AM PST by Gamecock
Sounds like we're all equally sinful, since all sins are alike to God (see 1 John 5:16-17) and we're all "constituted" sinful in Adam.
Doesn't sound like y'all think it's really a very big deal to me.
LOL she simply posted what was in the article. I showed it’s included in RCC records. Play all the games you want and head down the rabbit trail by yourself.
>>As I PM'ed you:<<
And please don’t do that again. I don’t care what your relationship with some guy who wears a pagan Dagon hat is or isn’t.
Already pointed you to the Eucharistic Miracle of Lanciano. Tested scientifically. Cardiac muscle tissue. Doesn’t decay. Same blood type as the blood on the Shroud of Turin.
The thing that's really important is yet another Self and Self Alone opinion, this time about the intellect of someone who you quite obviously cannot possibly contradict.
What a fine proof that those who deny the power of the Holy Spirit by only accepting the anti-Christ Pharisee Approved Luther Subset of Scripture are being led by the powerless spirit of their own Most High and Holy Self rather than the Holy Spirit Christ promised would guide those who follow Him.
You’re joking right? Not a very big deal? I’m not even going down this road, from Genesis to Revelation, God has spoken about sin. It was such a “big deal” in fact, that God sent His only begotten Son to die for our sin. Please don’t tell me that I don’t think it’s really a very big deal. It cost Christ everything.
Yeah, by pulling stuff out of context I can have the Bible teach "there is no God". Wow, I'm impressed.
As I said, I posted the diametrical opposite of what metmom's false article claimed. It doesn't get any more categorical than that.
And please don’t do that again. I don’t care
If you're going to try and tell me I'm wrong about what my own church teaches, you ought to have the courage of your convictions to follow through and have someone on my side prove it to me.
I don't run around telling you that you're misrepresenting your own beliefs. Grant me the same courtesy.
It never says all sins are equal to God, and it never says your own personal sins don't matter, though. They aren't (1 John says so), and they matter a great deal.
Campion, I know you are sincere in your beliefs. So am I. I will lay down my life for what I believe. Because I know He will raise me up at the rapture. I also know we come from opposite ends of the spectrum. And only one of us can be right. I pray God’s grace and reconciliation through the finished work of Christ be your peace. Regards, smvoice
Part of what I'm trying to communicate is that we really don't. Fix some of the terminology mismatch, and we agree on a great deal. Not everything, including some things that are very important. But a great deal ... also including some things that are very important.
(We'll hear from the "opposite end of the spectrum" more and more in the future, I fear. *He* doesn't like either one of us.)
May God bless you richly, and may we all be happy together in heaven someday.
Nice.
I'm fully bilingual (Evangelical-Catholic) and the translation problem bugs me no end.
“Behold, I was SHAPEN IN INIQUITY; and IN SIN did my mother conceive me.” (Psalm 51:5). See also Gen. 3:15-19; Jn. 8:44; Rom. 2:12-16; 5:12-32; Eph. 2:1-3; 1 Jn. 3:8). There is abundant proof of a sin nature, passed on from Adam to the present and beyond.
I don’t know why you would be looking for “bragging rights”, but as far as white Catholics leaving the Catholic denomination, most go to other churches or denominations.
White Catholics are not usually leaving to become Pagans, nor are the children of Evangelicals, many, or most of white Catholics leave and become more devoted to the Christian faith either in a different denomination, or as a non-denominational Christian.
I guess Lumen Gentium cancels "Catholic 101"? Even your own magesterium concedes that Christians - legitimate Christians - exist outside of the Roman Catholic Church. I actually turned towards Jesus by leaving the Catholic religion. I am one of His sheep, who heard His voice and follows Him. Hell has NO place for me. Sorry if that disappoints you.
Just because I’m curious, what would you say is the “opposite end of the spectrum”? Do you have specific ideas or just a feeling?
So a piece of Jesus heart was preserved for hundreds of years having been nailed to a board and saved ey? Yeah, that lines up with what scripture teaches. NOT!
The term "sin nature" itself is not used in Scripture, and was invented by Protestant theologians. Nothing wrong with that in itself (we certainly have invented words for concepts that we saw in Scripture but which didn't have a name, starting perhaps with "Trinity").
But what does that term mean, or maybe I should ask "what does that term mean to you?"
I'm not sure that you can draw any general anthropological conclusions from Jesus' condemnation of the Pharisees in Jn 8:44. :-)
Do you think that Adam passed some sort of objective pollution to his descendants -- a pollution that cannot be characterized as a lack of something good and necessary, but as the positive presence of something that shouldn't be there?
Old Scratch and his apostles and prophets.
The fullness of the faith is found in the Catholic Church.
A hell of a lot easier to make it to heaven following the one truth Christian faith started by Jesus himself and not some character named Jones, Smith, Brown or Gonzales.
How on earth anyone could turn away from Jesus (Eurcharist), is beyond me. If they ever had an understanding of the faith to start with and fully believed in the presence of Jesus at the Eucharist, how on earth can they turn their backs on him.
Ephesians 2:3 Among whom also we all had our behavior in times past in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind; and were by nature the children of wrath, even as others.
Romans 7:14 For we know that the law is spiritual: but I am carnal, sold under sin.
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