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The Hobbit and EWTN
Waiting for Godot to Leave ^
| November 21, 2013
| Kevin O'Brien
Posted on 11/27/2013 2:50:45 PM PST by NYer
Joseph Pearce writes ...
I'm at EWTN at the moment and had a sneak preview of the forthcoming Hobbit special on which we worked. It's truly superb and you are as wonderful as ever! It's being aired on December 5th.
Can't wait to see it!
We filmed two specials - one on The Hobbit and one on The Lord of the Rings. I have not yet heard when the second one will air. I play Tolkien in both specials and Joseph offers his insightful commentary on the Catholic elements in Tolkien's works. I'll pass long more info as it's passed along to me.
Here I am with Joseph in the marvelous Hobbit Hole set at EWTN when we filmed last spring ...
TOPICS: Catholic; Current Events; Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: hobbit; lotr
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To: GeronL
How in the world they left out the penultimate Scouring of the Shire is still something I shake my head about. I believe the problem was pacing; we've just spent nine hours (twelve in the director's cut) in three movies, and the One Ring & Sauron are finally destroyed...and then we're going to take 20 minutes to show a bunch of ruffians being run out of The Shire? And then show 20 minutes of endings tying up plot threads? In a movie, it just wouldn't work well.
The book is another matter, of course.
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posted on
11/27/2013 7:22:39 PM PST
by
Kip Russell
(Be wary of strong drink. It can make you shoot at tax collectors -- and miss. ---Robert A. Heinlein)
To: vladimir998
Several, although I know about them only from the reports of observers ;-).
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posted on
11/28/2013 3:14:47 AM PST
by
Tax-chick
(Are you getting ready for the Advent Kitteh?)
To: Tax-chick
At some point in time, most of us have drank with those dwarves... Good times.
Love the books. The movies not as much. I can see what will happen with the next one, and don’t like the direction.
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posted on
11/28/2013 5:31:23 AM PST
by
redgolum
("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
To: Tax-chick; prisoner6
That is a risk with all fantasy.
The trouble is that, even in Narnia, it presents a mythology that can be viewed as an alternative to Christianity. I have known a few people who dabbled in the occult because of their love of the wizards in LOTR.
But I have also known a few who found it a great bullwark to their Christian faith.
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posted on
11/28/2013 5:34:00 AM PST
by
redgolum
("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
To: redgolum
The trouble is that, even in Narnia, it presents a mythology that can be viewed as an alternative to Christianity. I have known a few people who dabbled in the occult because of their love of the wizards in LOTR. A few people will becomes obsessed with any form of fiction that has a huge fan base, especially films. Just look at (for instance) Star Wars, Star Trek, Harry Potter, and the Twilight franchises. In all of these cases, there are a small number of people who take their involvement with the films beyond mere fandom into obsession.
I don't think that's a reason for any rational person to avoid enjoying any of them.
(mind you, there is a different reason to avoid Twilight...it's terrible)
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posted on
11/28/2013 7:09:30 AM PST
by
Kip Russell
(Be wary of strong drink. It can make you shoot at tax collectors -- and miss. ---Robert A. Heinlein)
To: KC_Lion
I still like the 1977 Rankin-Bass version.
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posted on
11/28/2013 8:18:51 AM PST
by
Zionist Conspirator
(The Left: speaking power to truth since Shevirat HaKelim.)
To: Kip Russell; redgolum
Yes, some people are just going to go overboard over something, whatever it is.
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posted on
11/28/2013 8:47:50 AM PST
by
Tax-chick
(Are you getting ready for the Advent Kitteh?)
To: Zionist Conspirator
I still like the 1977 Rankin-Bass version. 1977 vs 2012:
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posted on
11/28/2013 9:03:51 AM PST
by
Kip Russell
(Be wary of strong drink. It can make you shoot at tax collectors -- and miss. ---Robert A. Heinlein)
To: Kip Russell
Thorin is supposed to be old, over 200, not a hottie.
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posted on
11/28/2013 9:47:48 AM PST
by
Tax-chick
(Are you getting ready for the Advent Kitteh?)
To: Tax-chick
Thorin is supposed to be old, over 200, not a hottie. Heck, Aragorn is 88 years old by the time of the events in The Lord of the Rings, Frodo is 50, Gimli is 139, and Legolas is over 800. Gandalf is thousands of years old.
Some people (especially non-human people) age really well in Middle Earth
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posted on
11/28/2013 10:11:04 AM PST
by
Kip Russell
(Be wary of strong drink. It can make you shoot at tax collectors -- and miss. ---Robert A. Heinlein)
To: Kip Russell
Yes, but Thorin is described as appearing old, including a long, white beard.
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posted on
11/28/2013 11:12:48 AM PST
by
Tax-chick
(Are you getting ready for the Advent Kitteh?)
To: Tax-chick
Yes, but Thorin is described as appearing old, including a long, white beard. Er...the film version has white highlights?
Ok, that's a stretch. It's pretty obvious that in Jackson's version of The Hobbit, Thorin is filling the "Aragorn, Jr." slot.
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posted on
11/28/2013 11:16:17 AM PST
by
Kip Russell
(Be wary of strong drink. It can make you shoot at tax collectors -- and miss. ---Robert A. Heinlein)
To: Kip Russell
I agree. The characters are reworked to fit Jackson’s vision of the story, not the author’s.
That doesn’t keep it from being somewhat fun, but it’s still obnoxious. Especially all the falling!
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posted on
11/28/2013 11:23:37 AM PST
by
Tax-chick
(Are you getting ready for the Advent Kitteh?)
To: Tax-chick
That doesnt keep it from being somewhat fun, but its still obnoxious. Especially all the falling! I was more annoyed by the over the top stunts; Legolas surfing the shield down the stairs, bouncing around like Spider-Man on the oliphaunt, etc. That and some of the lame attempts at humor (most of which had Gimli as the butt of the them) did detract from the films.
But that having been said, they remain the greatest fantasy epic ever put on film. I just like to nitpick :-)
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posted on
11/28/2013 12:19:03 PM PST
by
Kip Russell
(Be wary of strong drink. It can make you shoot at tax collectors -- and miss. ---Robert A. Heinlein)
To: Kip Russell
Legolas surfing the shield down the stairs, bouncing around like Spider-Man on the oliphaunt, etc. That and some of the lame attempts at humor (most of which had Gimli as the butt of the them) did detract from the films.Yeah, that too. And Arwen, Warrior Princess.
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posted on
11/28/2013 12:53:06 PM PST
by
Tax-chick
(Are you getting ready for the Advent Kitteh?)
To: Tax-chick
Yeah, that too. And Arwen, Warrior Princess. While shoehorning Arwen into that role wasn't faithful to the source material, I don't think it hurt the movie as such the way lame jokes did.
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posted on
11/28/2013 1:01:19 PM PST
by
Kip Russell
(Be wary of strong drink. It can make you shoot at tax collectors -- and miss. ---Robert A. Heinlein)
To: Kip Russell
I suppose I have to agree. If the viewer hadn’t read the books, he wouldn’t know any different about that character, but the stupid contemporary jokes affect the movie as an independent work of art.
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posted on
11/28/2013 1:09:46 PM PST
by
Tax-chick
(Are you getting ready for the Advent Kitteh?)
To: Tax-chick
but the stupid contemporary jokes affect the movie as an independent work of art. "No one tosses a dwarf!"
Blech.
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posted on
11/28/2013 1:50:08 PM PST
by
Kip Russell
(Be wary of strong drink. It can make you shoot at tax collectors -- and miss. ---Robert A. Heinlein)
To: Kip Russell
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posted on
11/28/2013 3:11:24 PM PST
by
Tax-chick
(Are you getting ready for the Advent Kitteh?)
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