Posted on 12/09/2013 7:46:04 PM PST by Jet Jaguar
The official explanation is that the lds god(s) change their minds on a frequent basis.
>>, saying it was put into place during an era of great racial divide that influenced early teachings of the church.<<
Not to be confused with magical gold pieces pulled from a top hat that influenced early teachings...
Women’s ordination and gay marriage will be next.
One thing I don’t understand is how you can become a black mormon? Isn’t that like a Jew joining the SS? Does he remember the founder Joseph Smith said the best people of color could expect was to become the servants/slaves of white gods in the afterlife? An eternal “plantation”? Isn’t that what he told a black servant who converted and followed him all her life? Correct me if I’m wrong.
Xenu had a really good chauffeur who just happened to be black, and it made him think twice about banning black priests.
That doesn't sound very white or delightsome!
So, the LDS Prophets, and by Extension, the LDS god is fallible, right?
This appears to be an admission that heretofore claimed infallible pronouncements of the founders of the Mormon Church were not infallible. Perhaps, the other doctrines of the Mormon Church considered to be strange by mainstream Christianity will also be re-cast as something less than infallible. I have always been very impressed by the actual Mormons I have met. I like their devotion to family and church life, their embrace of private charity and of a free market economy.
Next up for revision: Jewish Indians.
These verses below talk about how the "skin of blackness" is a "cursing" based upon their "iniquity" (2 Nephi 5:21; Alma 3:6; Jacob 3:5) and how when the curse would be removed, they would again become "white" (3 Nephi 2:15), which the Book of Mormon says is a "delightsome" color (2 Nephi 5:21; cf. older version of the one verse they DID alter without any explanation: 2 Nephi 30:6):
The Mormon "prophets" Nephi, Alma and the Mormon Jacob are racists! (As are the Mormon gods)
* "And he had caused the cursing to come upon them, yea, even a sore cursing, because of their iniquity. For behold, they had hardened their hearts against him, that they had become like unto a flint; wherefore, as they were white, and exceeding fair and delightsome, that they might not be enticing unto my people the Lord God did cause a skin of blackness to come upon them." (2 Nephi 5:21)
* "...many generations shall not pass away among them, save they shall be a white and delightsome people." (2 Nephi 30:6, pre-1981 versions...changed from unknown reasons in 1981 to "fair and delightsome"...It's not like the Mormon church has the supposed gold plates to go back and look to interpret a word differently)
* "And the skins of the Lamanites were dark, according to the mark which was set upon their fathers, which was a curse upon them because of their transgression and their rebellion against the their brethren..." (Alma 3:6)
* "Behold, the Lamanites your brethren, whom ye hate because of their filthiness and the cursing which hath come upon their skins..." (Jacob 3:5) [Note: The "Lamanites" per Mormonism are Native Americans...so their skin color, says Mormon "scripture" is based upon a supposed curse]
* "And their curse was taken from them, and their skin became white like unto the Nephites." (3 Nephi 2:15) [Note: So...to be "uncursed" is to have your skin turn white...per white-and-delightsome Mormonism, that is!]
There, fixed it!
Regards,
Well, there goes the ENTIRE Mormon "revelation" system ... that Joseph Smith "revealed" what He supposedly "heard" the Mormon gods tell him.
Take, for example, his mid-1835 "revelation."
At that point, Smith was churning out new Scripture. Smith was taking aim at new converts. But in that time, did he believe the Mormon gospel to be aimed at slaves? (No, not unless express permission was granted by their owners).
Could you imagine a verse still applicable todayone similar to the Mormon scripture of Doctrine & Covenants 134:12which would tell you in effect that yes, the gospel was for women who are sexually trafficked--but only if their Pimp-owner says "Yes?".
I mean, imagine if you will, for a moment, that you are the God of the universe; God of every planet; God of the earth; Creator of every person. Imagine for a moment you are speaking forth universal eternal truth. And then imagine that someone claims you (as God) made the following Scriptural statement:
Doctrine & Covenants 134:12:
We believe it just to preach the gospel to the nations of the earth, and warn the righteous to save themselves from the corruption of the world; but we do not believe it right to interfere with bond-servants, neither preach the gospel to, nor baptize them contrary to the will and wish of their masters, nor to meddle with or influence them in the least to cause them to be dissatisfied with their situations in this life, thereby jeopardizing the lives of men; such interference we believe to be unlawful and unjust, and dangerous to the peace of every government allowing human beings to be held in servitude.
D&C 134:12 is LDS Doctrine that has never been removed or rescinded!!! Until TODAY!!!
Now, the Mormon Church leadership has said that it's ENTIRE revelation process is simply based upon Joseph Smith's theories.
This passage makes it quite clear in contrast to the apostle Paul who vied for the religious freedom of Onesimus while treating him as a full Christian brother and encouraged Philemon to do the same--that somehow, Joseph Smith thought that "religious freedom" applied to everyone except slaves!
And the Mormon Church has just gone on record (generically speaking)...repudiating Joseph Smith himself!!!!
And here we thought -- with passages like D&C 134:12... written in 1835 pro-slavery America-- had made it quite clear that instead of the Mormons having a universal god who issued eternal truth applicable to all cultures, he is instead an American-sounding god who speaks only in King James English & was beholden to the American slavery industry.
Up until today, D&C 134:12 "settled" the issue for the Mormon: Are slaves & trafficking victims worthy of the "gospel?" LDS past answer? Nope! "neither preach the gospel to, nor baptize them..." says LDS "Scripture.
And why not? Well, says D&C 134:12: We don't want ya ta meddle with the Mastuhs' business property, or to say it as precisely as LDS "scripture" says it: nor to meddle with or influence them in the least to cause them to be dissatisfied with their situations in this life...
(Nah. We can't have unhappy slaves or trafficking victims now, can we? Too disturbing to their "stations" of life, eh?)
But now...............as of Dec. 9, 2013...
Just as Obama can pick & choose which parts of ObamaCare to enforce (or not), Mormons are NOW allowed to pick & choose which "scriptures" they want to believe are relevant! And which originated in sheer man-made theory! Many Mormon standard works are simply "theory"...as admitted to by the Lds General Authorities!
Noted.
ALL: Mormon Teppe is trying to equivocate the Mormon priesthood with Protestant clergy.
Hey...even 12-year-old white boys were part of the broad "Mormon priesthood."
12-year-old white boys could go inside Mormon temples; but not blacks. (They couldn't even make it inside in early 1978!!!)
Discuss the issues all you want, but do not make it personal.
Yes?
No?
(I'll interpret a silent response on that to be "yes")
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