Posted on 12/15/2013 9:14:52 AM PST by NYer
not all socialists and marxists are atheists, though it is the norm….. but the Pope is the one who said Marxists were nice…..so burden of proof is on him and his supporters to splain that…..
….got it…..but I know he has some defenders on this site…and I want them to try and do so…….
Not lying, politically ignorant.
Did I miss your answer????
Too many people want the Pope, whoever he happens to be, to praise Warren Buffett, no wait, he’s a “Marxist”, Buffett is, how about Donald Trump, no, he’s a “socialist”, who then? T Boone Pickett maybe, or Perot, hell, no, not Perot, he gave us the Krintongs, instead of letting us keep Daddy ADA Bush.
**When asked by Italian Vatican analyst Andrea Tornielli about the accusations of Marxism from “ultra-conservative Americans,” who took issue with certain passages of the Pope’s recent apostolic exhortation, Evangelii Gaudium, the Pontiff was quick to denounce such ideology.
“The Marxist ideology is wrong,” he responded flatly.**
I guess you didn’t see his direct quote on the other thread.
In my opinion he is not ignorant, and you are continuing to misquote him.
Why? Do you hate Catholics? Hate the Catholic Church?
Why would you post untruths?
He then went on to say that he was not insulted by the claim he was a Marxists….since he knows some and they are nice.
………so?????
That’s not an answer, thats just infantile rants on your part.
There is evidence the Pope likes some Marxists. There is no evidence anyone here hates the Catholic Church.
So do you know people who were nice and might have gone to Mandela’s funeral or praised his efforts?
What the Pope is saying, in my opinion is that he cannot judge — Christ will be the judge.
While we are alive, Christ is perfect mercy. At the moment of our death, Christ becomes perfect justice.
How will you answer Christ then?
That’s a personal attack.
Good bye.
Well we are called to judge - by their fruits. I’m not judging on salvation, that is Christ’ job alone…..and what going to Mandela’s funeral and saying that Marxists are nice have to do with each other ….is a mystery.
No, it’s not a personal attack. You claiming that certain people hate Catholics is a personal attack however. Hate is a continuous accusation…..an infantile rant points only to a particular action and is not a personal attack at all.
They might very well be people that none of us would know. He’s the Pope. Imho, it’s his job to be forgiving, compassionate and loving. To be a leader and teacher.
From the Catholic Encyclopedia: “The title pope, once used with far greater latitude (see below, section V), is at present employed solely to denote the Bishop of Rome, who, in virtue of his position as successor of St. Peter, is the chief pastor of the whole Church, the Vicar of Christ upon earth.”
He’s not an economist, or a politician. He is not Pope John Paul II, or Pope Benedict, but for some reason that only He can know, God has chosen him to lead the Church during this difficult time.
I believe that his heart is full of love. God bless him.
Nobody calling for countries to feed and support anyone who crosses the border by robbing the citizens can be very full of love.
He’s the Pope. He doesn’t have the same priorities that many of us have. He sees the world in a different way.
That may be true, but he criticized the very system that has lifted more people out of poverty than any other….by indicating that it was a system that was responsible for poverty. I’m sorry….I can’t go along with the infalibility doctrine on this one….
The only good Marxists are the four gentlemen in that photo IMHO.
That is a close cousin of socialism. It requires an all powerful body to limit and distribute capital. Great on paper till you start thinking how it would work
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