[James R. Aist]

You may be surprised, so please read carefully and thoughtfully.

[GeronL]

“turned out to be homosexuals” ??

bias...

[humblegunner]

You may be surprised, so please read carefully and thoughtfully.

I might except for this:

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Post it here. No hits for you.

[taxcontrol]

There are:

Alcoholic born again Christians
Adultery born again Christians
Thieves, murders and rapist who are born again Christians.

How do they differ from the majority of homosexual “Christians”. In a word - repentance. The changing of their thinking. They have called their former behavior sin and work to change their lives by not repeating that sin. The majority of homosexuals that I have met are UNREPENTANT. Further, they work to try and convince the rest of the world that they did not sin and thus suffer from the second sin of pride.

[Keli Kilohana]

Homosexual is what a person DOES—not what a person IS. No one is born a pedophile. Are they? Neither is any one born homosexual.

[Ingtar]

God loves murderers as well, but His forgiveness is not license to continue their behavior either.

[Some Fat Guy in L.A.]

Hard to have a lot of compassion for those who not only do not repent of their sins but are “proud” of them.

[editor-surveyor]

First, nobody has been ‘born again’ yet but Yeshua himself. That will happen for those that ‘endure to the end’ when the last trump sounds.

Second, the Mikva (baptisms) that begins by the grace of Yehova involves confession, repentance, and walkout to righteousness in Yeshua. Anyone that is still a homosexual has not had that experience in their life.

You might want to ask that this thread be deleted.

[Huskrrrr]

I have more compassion for homosexuals than I do for the pro-abortion folks, just my two cents. Fortunately, God did not send me to Earth to judge others but to love them and help them to repent.

[SoConPubbie]

Mark 7:18-23

18 And he saith unto them, Are ye so without understanding also? Do ye not perceive, that whatsoever thing from without entereth into the man, it cannot defile him;

19 Because it entereth not into his heart, but into the belly, and goeth out into the draught, purging all meats?

20 And he said, That which cometh out of the man, that defileth the man.

21 For from within, out of the heart of men, proceed evil thoughts, adulteries, fornications, murders,

22 Thefts, covetousness, wickedness, deceit, lasciviousness, an evil eye, blasphemy, pride, foolishness:

23 All these evil things come from within, and defile the man.

I post this scripture with one express purpose. Christ's primary purpose was not to change our outside actions, but to change our heart.

As this scripture points out, sin proceeds from the heart, so when you propose that someone who has homosexual desires is not sinning, you are not being scriptural. I'm sure your church has taught you that, but Christ has not.

II Cor. 5:17

17 Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.

He came to give us power over our sin, and as Christ has shown, sin originates from the heart.

And as the Apostle Paul shows in Romans chapters 7 and 8, without Christ, we cannot help BUT sin(Chapter 7), but with Christ, after believing the Gospel and letting Christ forgive us and change us, there is no more condemnation for sin (because we are not sinning anymore)(Chapter 8)

[Sacajaweau]

They're perverts who MUST prey on "non homos" to propogate their numbers.

Russia got it right. We got it wrong.

[ColdSteelTalon]

This message is for everyone on the thread.

If a person is a homosexual, then turns to Christ but yet struggles with the sin, I got news for you they are indeed saved and they are going to heaven. When a person is truly saved their mind will change such that they do not accept their sins any longer (even though they might struggle with those sins even after believing).

The key is that the mind changes (metanoia in the Greek) the moment someone gets saved. God does not expect perfect obedience, if God did than there is no need of grace through the shed blood of Jesus Christ and we are all condemned, because we cannot meet the requirements of God's law on our own and by our own merit.

In other words the saved person will cry for mercy for their sins and not say the opposite which would be something along the lines of "God thinks my sins are OK".

[Bikkuri]

[hondact200]

born again and homosexual. repentance from sin. a new life in christ how can one be both. That is the problem with the church today the subjective before the objective. Christians cannot be homosexuals. In the whole of scripture God destroyed people whom committed this lifestyle. Sodom and Gomorrah - Notice Sodom the root of sinful relations with another person of the same sex.

[Mrs. Don-o]

This needs better formatting. Even paragraph beaks would help.

[John 3_19-21]

"You may be surprised, so please read carefully and thoughtfully."

Why?

[JSDude1]

I was prepared to rebut your article, however you mention that truly born again people (who were homosexuals or act like that) will eventually turn from their sins; this is correct.

It is the difference between those who have truly been born again (even though in their past they have been “homosexuals”) and those that claim to be Christians but live unrepentant homosexual lifestyles (these people cannot be saved-as we see their life, like it or not this is such a big part of a person’s life (their sexual nature) that we see their fruit is rotten (in the unrepentant/unsaved homosexual). Some people may pose as Christians, but they are truly not.

Some (Hopefully!) will get saved then the Holy Spirit will lead them out of this lifestyle and (God willing if it is His will) into a normal relationship with a person of the opposite sex!~

God Bless,
and Merry Christmas! I would refer back to Romans Chapter 1 as to the true cause of homosexuality (an idolatry of self, and more specially the sexual part of the self) that replaces God with a person’s self. Jesus of course restores a right relationship with a person and their sexual nature, which this “Rock” can then build healthy marriage and family relationships on!

“Such as were some of you” (1 Cor 6:11).

THANK GOD FOR HIS GRACE FOR THE HOMOSEXUAL SINNER (And the rest of us that sin in other ways and ALL deserve the 2nd Death)!

[Mrs. Don-o]

Don’t delete the thread. Looks like you have a discussion of sorts going. I guess that’s what Free Republic is all about.

[Farmer Dean]

The born again homosexuals should read Romans1:27-29.That should make the hair stand up on the back of their necks.

[newheart]

Thanks for a very well-reasoned and insightful post. You are a brave soul to post a link to it here as there are many who are utterly convinced that same sex attraction is, in and of itself, tantamount to the unpardonable sin (second only to posting a link to one’s blog) while remaining blind to the true nature of their own condemning spirit and hatred for anyone who disagrees with them or their political or theological ideologies in even the slightest iota. Of course, like all believers they are subject Philippians 1:6. They, along with the rest of us, can be assured that God, who began the good work in them, will continue that work until it is finished.

Among my friends and relatives are a number of people who are both Christian and have struggled with same sex attraction. Their perseverance is a marvel to me and a genuine testimony to the power of God. I imagine that if God were to somehow ran out of room in heaven, my friends would be more likely to have a place than I would.

[vpintheak]

Yes, the key is repentance and not actively practicing. If anyone os going about actively participating in sin, they are not Christians, they do not have Christ within them.