Posted on 12/20/2013 8:46:47 AM PST by Laissez-faire capitalist
Click on the YouTube link below to watch Bill O'Reilly's chat with Laura Ingraham on last night's The O'Reilly Factor (12/19/2013). Bill O'Reilly quotes Luke 6:37, which is displayed on the screen:
"Judge not, and you will not be judged. Condemn not, and you will not be condemned."
Listen to what he has to say. Do you agree with what he has to say about "Judge not lest ye be judged..."?
Now compare what he has to say with what is at Catholic.com and Catholic.org on this subject. Go to those sites and the first thing you see today is a discussion about what Phil Robertson had to say and the issue of homosexuality and right and wrong. They both seem to be in agreeement with the following:
1.) NIV Study Bible, page 1550, Luke 6:37, commentary section:
"Jesus did not relieve His followers of the need for discerning right and wrong (cf. vv. 43-45), but he condemned unjust and hypocritical judging of others."
2.) Holman Concise Bible Commentary, page 453. Luke 6:12-49
"...love recognizes sin in the self before it hastens to deal with sin in others."
3.) Fire Bible: Student Edition, page 1397 [for those in that age group]. Commentary section.
"This is one of the most quoted - but often misunderstood and abused - Bible passages. Ungodly people often cite this principle to justify their sinful behavior and lifestyles. The fact is that God's people must constantly use discernment, make wise judgments and accept or reject certain beliefs and behaviors (See Pr. 3:21; Jn. 7:24).
1.) We have to discern what is right and wrong by the scriptures and take a stand for what is right. 2.) We have to realize that we are sinners (which Phil Robertson did) BEFORE we deal with the sin in others, as Holman shows above, thus showing that sin in others must be dealt with AFTER our own, and 3.) certain behaviors must be called out and rejected.
I've seen it here on FR...Blaming the altar boys for luring the poor priest into sexual activity...I'll bet you won't find anything in any 'ancient Greeks Texts' referring to boy prostitutes in that verse...
You do know what the bible says about lying, yes?
I don't care what your religion teaches and obviously most Catholics don't either...
But that Bill O'Reilly response has been used on us more times than I can count...
That is the minority view. The evidence indicates the opposite. There were terrible acts committed against innocent, trusting Catholics by priests. Systematic eradication of perverts and molesters from the priestly ranks has been and continues to be the response.
I'll bet you won't find anything in any 'ancient Greeks Texts' referring to boy prostitutes in that verse...
Maybe not. It's not in my Catholic Bible (Douay Rheims version) which reads: "Know you not that the unjust shall not possess the kingdom of God? Do not err: Neither fornicators nor idolators nor adulterers:
Nor the effeminate nor liars with mankind nor thieves nor covetous nor drunkards nor railers nor extortioners shall possess the kingdom of God."
Some translations are clearly better than others, and since Vatican II there have been some poor translations produced.
New King James Version (NKJV)
25 But those who rebuke the wicked will have delight, And a good blessing will come upon them.
When the Bible says not to judge it means one shouldn't judge hypocritically.
Luke 6 goes on to say, remove the plank from your own eye SO you can remove the plank from your brother's eye. So, the passage in context is a command to judge. The passage says stop sinning and tell others to do the same and the requires judging.
New King James Version (NKJV)
15 But he who is spiritual judges all things, yet he himself is rightly judged by no one.
O’Reilly is a blithering idiot who is too damn stupid to notice that he judges people on a daily basis. As we all do.
BillyO.....the phone sex king comments and gets it all wrong.....LOL. Phil identified sin, quoted appropriate scripture.......he did not point a finger a a person and condemn them...but Bill on the other hand did exactly that.
] Luke 7:43
Simon answered and said, I suppose the one whom he forgave more. And He said to him, You have rightly judged.
1 Corinthians 2:15
New King James Version (NKJV)
15 But he who is spiritual judges all things, yet he himself is rightly judged by no one.
The Bible only condemns judging hypocritically. And that is what Luke 6 does.
Phil speaks the truth, and expresses what 99% of men know in their hearts.
Sexual relations were created by God so that one man and one woman could unite in a life-giving act.
Too bad for the homosexuals—the truth hurts!
It wouldn't have mattered if he did. Rebuking evil is encouraged in the Bible:
Proverbs 24:25
New King James Version (NKJV)
25 But those who rebuke the wicked will have delight, And a good blessing will come upon them.
John 7:24
Do not judge according to appearance, but judge with righteous judgment.
1971
RULE 4 - Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules.
OK, I need a translation - I can guess the 1st 2 are Jesuit education ...
And IIRC, it ends with “go and sin no more”.
that part is always left off.
Nooooooooo!!!
Bill should write a theology column. It would be as entertaining as Larry King's mindless ramblings.
Phil Robertson is being discriminated against on account of his sexual orientation....and that is against the law.
Bill is a lost soul that thinks he will go to heaven because of his good works..He is scripturally ignorant and frequently mis quotes or misuses scripture
A few months ago he referenced the epistle of Amos...
I did email him about the misuse of that quote..
And as you know, so do the scholars who wrote the commentary of the RC New American Bible. When they get done relegating historical accounts to being fables and folk tales, then you wonder whether the resurrection will eventually be also.
Of course, the TRCs just excommunicate them, even Rome does not, and thus are part of another informal schism.
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