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Advise me: A Christian who does good deeds thinks they can sin because of their good works?
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Posted on 12/30/2013 12:45:24 AM PST by dila813
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I know they feel they are saving souls by delivering them to Jesus, but I can't help but think of what I learned in my upbringing (Catholic School), that they way you conduct your life is more important than your personal pride and demonstrations of faith.
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posted on
12/30/2013 12:45:24 AM PST
by
dila813
To: dila813
They may feel that they are saving souls; but really, it is at the cost of their own.
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posted on
12/30/2013 12:48:37 AM PST
by
onona
(The Earth is the insane asylum for the universe (yup, I belong))
To: dila813
Do you know anyone who actually believes this or are you the first to propose this idea?
To: dila813
Not everyone who says to me, Lord, Lord, will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father in heaven. 22 On that day many will say to me, Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many deeds of power in your name? 23 Then I will declare to them, I never knew you; go away from me, you evildoers.
Matthew 7:21-23
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posted on
12/30/2013 12:52:39 AM PST
by
LukeL
To: dila813
How can you have faith if you don’t actually follow God?
To: dila813
Where in the Bible does it say one should have personal pride? It seems like it’s the opposite.
To: dila813
“What is it called when a Christian who does good deeds thinks they can sin because of their good works?”
Evil.
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posted on
12/30/2013 12:58:45 AM PST
by
MestaMachine
(My caps work. You gotta earn them.)
To: dila813
And that doesn’t go just for Christians. It pertains to everyone. It isn’t personal pride either. It’s sheer arrogance and defiance of G-d’s Law.
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posted on
12/30/2013 1:03:36 AM PST
by
MestaMachine
(My caps work. You gotta earn them.)
To: dila813
If the person is stealing, call the police. That will take him down a few pegs.
To: dila813; Berlin_Freeper
Silence in the face of evil is acquiescence. If whoever you are speaking of is influencing your family, you need to shine the light. Can you prove what you are charging? If so, then DO it.
OR is this a televangelist who you believe is in it for the money and fame?
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posted on
12/30/2013 1:16:44 AM PST
by
MestaMachine
(My caps work. You gotta earn them.)
To: dila813
Entrance into heaven isn’t based on our good deeds. No one is good enough.
It is based on the person and work of Jesus Christ. He is the only way to gain entrance into heaven.
Good works follow because the Holy Spirit enables us to be good and do good, and because we now want to do what is pleasing to Him and also because we now want to avoid that which displeases Him. If the enablishing and the wanting aren’t there, that person needs to check to see if He is really saved in the first place.
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posted on
12/30/2013 1:21:18 AM PST
by
Jemian
(War Eagle!)
To: dila813
IIRC, correctly there was a term like that back in Europe called dispensation. But that involved money to the church for sins or something like that.
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posted on
12/30/2013 1:26:25 AM PST
by
Gaffer
To: dila813
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posted on
12/30/2013 1:53:12 AM PST
by
right way right
(What's it gonna take? (guillotines?))
To: dila813
They are abusing Gods grace.
Jesus himself will sort the sheep from the goats.
They should know that.
Its up to him one heart at a time, he will judge.
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posted on
12/30/2013 2:05:46 AM PST
by
right way right
(What's it gonna take? (guillotines?))
To: dila813
God knows how one is supposed to constructively influence someone with a superior attitude. So I would recommend prayer. I understand that God is even smarter than us Freepers.
To: dila813
I advise you to
flee the Great Whore who Rides the Beast. And here's
something else to think about:
" The "woman" which mounts and rides the Beast is none other than the Roman Catholic Church! She is the great "Lady of the Kingdoms" (read Isaiah 47), "...the mother of harlots [her protesting daughters which came out of her] and abominations of the earth" (Revelation 17:5).
Her signs are those of the cross, Sunday, Easter, Christmas, and Halloween! She has thought "to change times and laws" (Daniel 7:25), and will eventually put to death the saints of God for refusing to receive and accept her mark, to worship the Beast and the image of the Beast (the papacy), to receive the number of the name of the Beast! She has protesting daughters, who, though rejecting her leadership, cling to many of her most important dogmas and doctrines. They include the millions who recite the "apostles creed" (absolutely unbiblical!), recite and sing the "doxology," believe in the immortality of the soul and the Trinity, and who worship on the day of the sun and on the days of ancient pagans, such as the "Saturnalia" (Christmas), and the festival devoted to "Ishtar" (Easter).
God warns, "COME OUT OF HER, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues. For her sins have reached unto heaven, and God hath remembered her iniquities" (Revelation 18:4,5). "
http://herbert-armstrong.org/Books%20
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posted on
12/30/2013 2:19:57 AM PST
by
Yosemitest
(It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
To: dila813
It’s a bit difficult to say as you don’t particularly name too much of what they are doing. Some have just had bad teaching and they may not think they are sinning. Some maybe having trouble with various issues in their lives or are yet to modify certain behaviors that offend your sensibilities. Or are they saying that homosexuality is not sin or something like that?
Ask God for an opportunity to speak to them in all humility. None of us are yet perfected!
Mel
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posted on
12/30/2013 2:20:21 AM PST
by
melsec
(Once a Jolly Swagman camped by a Billabong.)
To: dila813
What is it called when a Christian who does good deeds thinks they can sin because of their good works? Is this person a Catholic or an evangelical Christian? If the latter, the person may be wallowing in the extreme position of the "grace alone" heresy. It might be the converse of what you think; not because of his good works, but in spite of them.
It's called "antinomianism."
This theology metastasized so exponentially during the 70's and 80's to the point that you can now not tell most professing "Christians" from unbelievers. I can't count the number of professing Christian friends and associates, for example, who see no problem with getting drunk. Even many here on this site will defend this practice.
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posted on
12/30/2013 2:36:09 AM PST
by
fwdude
( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
To: dila813
Instead of, “Now go forth and sin no more,”...
It’s, “Now go forth and break last week’s record.”
I have been there. It’s frustrating.
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posted on
12/30/2013 2:42:11 AM PST
by
BADROTOFINGER
(Life sucks. Get a helmet.)
To: dila813
They’re doing it for the wrong reason or have a guilty conscience because they’re sinning and using their good deed to cover up for another sin
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posted on
12/30/2013 2:48:41 AM PST
by
4rcane
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