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Advise me: A Christian who does good deeds thinks they can sin because of their good works?
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Posted on 12/30/2013 12:45:24 AM PST by dila813

What is it called when a Christian who does good deeds thinks they can sin because of their good works?

Do you know someone like this? How do you deal with them?

I feel like I should confront them, but currently I am just ignoring them. What is the right thing to do?

Some of them have significant influence in and around my family. I am very uncomfortable.

I find it is frustrating to deal with someone who feels they are so superior to others that they can lie, cheat, steal, and do other similar sins all day long because they are involved with a Christian Non-Profit / Missions.


TOPICS: Catholic; Evangelical Christian; General Discusssion
KEYWORDS: pride
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I know they feel they are saving souls by delivering them to Jesus, but I can't help but think of what I learned in my upbringing (Catholic School), that they way you conduct your life is more important than your personal pride and demonstrations of faith.
1 posted on 12/30/2013 12:45:24 AM PST by dila813
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They may feel that they are saving souls; but really, it is at the cost of their own.


2 posted on 12/30/2013 12:48:37 AM PST by onona (The Earth is the insane asylum for the universe (yup, I belong))
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To: dila813

Do you know anyone who actually believes this or are you the first to propose this idea?


3 posted on 12/30/2013 12:51:43 AM PST by nickcarraway
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To: dila813
Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father in heaven. 22 On that day many will say to me, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many deeds of power in your name?’ 23 Then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; go away from me, you evildoers.’

Matthew 7:21-23

4 posted on 12/30/2013 12:52:39 AM PST by LukeL
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How can you have faith if you don’t actually follow God?


5 posted on 12/30/2013 12:53:18 AM PST by nickcarraway
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Where in the Bible does it say one should have personal pride? It seems like it’s the opposite.


6 posted on 12/30/2013 12:54:21 AM PST by nickcarraway
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“What is it called when a Christian who does good deeds thinks they can sin because of their good works?”

Evil.


7 posted on 12/30/2013 12:58:45 AM PST by MestaMachine (My caps work. You gotta earn them.)
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And that doesn’t go just for Christians. It pertains to everyone. It isn’t personal pride either. It’s sheer arrogance and defiance of G-d’s Law.


8 posted on 12/30/2013 1:03:36 AM PST by MestaMachine (My caps work. You gotta earn them.)
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If the person is stealing, call the police. That will take him down a few pegs.


9 posted on 12/30/2013 1:05:33 AM PST by Berlin_Freeper (Mia San Mia)
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Silence in the face of evil is acquiescence. If whoever you are speaking of is influencing your family, you need to shine the light. Can you prove what you are charging? If so, then DO it.
OR is this a televangelist who you believe is in it for the money and fame?


10 posted on 12/30/2013 1:16:44 AM PST by MestaMachine (My caps work. You gotta earn them.)
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Entrance into heaven isn’t based on our good deeds. No one is good enough.

It is based on the person and work of Jesus Christ. He is the only way to gain entrance into heaven.

Good works follow because the Holy Spirit enables us to be good and do good, and because we now want to do what is pleasing to Him and also because we now want to avoid that which displeases Him. If the enablishing and the wanting aren’t there, that person needs to check to see if He is really saved in the first place.


11 posted on 12/30/2013 1:21:18 AM PST by Jemian (War Eagle!)
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To: dila813

IIRC, correctly there was a term like that back in Europe called dispensation. But that involved money to the church for sins or something like that.


12 posted on 12/30/2013 1:26:25 AM PST by Gaffer
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Antinonism.


13 posted on 12/30/2013 1:53:12 AM PST by right way right (What's it gonna take? (guillotines?))
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They are abusing Gods grace.
Jesus himself will sort the sheep from the goats.
They should know that.
Its up to him one heart at a time, he will judge.


14 posted on 12/30/2013 2:05:46 AM PST by right way right (What's it gonna take? (guillotines?))
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God knows how one is supposed to constructively influence someone with a superior attitude. So I would recommend prayer. I understand that God is even smarter than us Freepers.


15 posted on 12/30/2013 2:17:13 AM PST by AndyTheBear
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To: dila813
I advise you to flee the Great Whore who Rides the Beast.


And here's something else to think about:
16 posted on 12/30/2013 2:19:57 AM PST by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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It’s a bit difficult to say as you don’t particularly name too much of what they are doing. Some have just had bad teaching and they may not think they are sinning. Some maybe having trouble with various issues in their lives or are yet to modify certain behaviors that offend your sensibilities. Or are they saying that homosexuality is not sin or something like that?

Ask God for an opportunity to speak to them in all humility. None of us are yet perfected!

Mel


17 posted on 12/30/2013 2:20:21 AM PST by melsec (Once a Jolly Swagman camped by a Billabong.)
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What is it called when a Christian who does good deeds thinks they can sin because of their good works?

Is this person a Catholic or an evangelical Christian? If the latter, the person may be wallowing in the extreme position of the "grace alone" heresy. It might be the converse of what you think; not because of his good works, but in spite of them.

It's called "antinomianism."

This theology metastasized so exponentially during the 70's and 80's to the point that you can now not tell most professing "Christians" from unbelievers. I can't count the number of professing Christian friends and associates, for example, who see no problem with getting drunk. Even many here on this site will defend this practice.

18 posted on 12/30/2013 2:36:09 AM PST by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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Instead of, “Now go forth and sin no more,”...

It’s, “Now go forth and break last week’s record.”

I have been there. It’s frustrating.


19 posted on 12/30/2013 2:42:11 AM PST by BADROTOFINGER (Life sucks. Get a helmet.)
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They’re doing it for the wrong reason or have a guilty conscience because they’re sinning and using their good deed to cover up for another sin


20 posted on 12/30/2013 2:48:41 AM PST by 4rcane
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