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Disgraced Ex-Preacher Says There’s a Major Culture Problem in Evangelical Christianity
The Blaze ^ | Dec. 16, 2013 | Billy Hallowell

Posted on 01/15/2014 5:30:34 PM PST by Gamecock

Ted Haggard, a preacher who stepped down in 2006 from his position as president of the National Association of Evangelicals and pastor of New Life Church in Colorado Springs, Colo., following a sex and drug scandal, recently spoke out about Isaac Hunter’s suicide, an event that took the evangelical world by storm last week.

Focusing specifically on the scandals and charges of wrongdoing that have surrounded many famed preachers — himself included — Haggard said that evangelical Christians sometimes fail to properly apply the gospel when dealing with faith leaders who fall from grace.

Hunter, the former pastor of Summit Church in Orlando, Fla., had been facing personal issues since stepping down from his position late last year. His death, following the suicide of Pastor Rick Warren’s son, Matthew, earlier this year, has brought additional attention to mental health in evangelical circles.

“The news about Pastor Isaac Hunter breaks my heart. Great speaker, lover of God, and my guess is he loved the church. But he, like all of us, fell short,” Haggard wrote. “In the midst of divorce with accusations swirling, he resigned from the church he founded. He gave it his best shot, and his heart was broken.”

He continued, “This makes me sick to my stomach. Don’t get me wrong, I’m not sick that he fell short, that’s a given for everyone except Christ Himself, I’m sick that our message did not do what we all hoped – it did not fix the problem.”

Haggard said that, in the past, evangelical leaders who have been immersed in scandal were often seen as not true believers, however he said this simply isn’t the case. In fact, he argued that most people who are in ministry “are sincere followers of Christ.”

While many Christians assume that a conversion to the faith heals all past problems, Haggard said this wasn’t the case in his own experience. While he said that becoming a believer made him “a new creation spiritually,” Haggard noted that there was some “simple care” that would have helped him avoid the scandal and pain he caused his family.

“I was so ashamed in 2006 when my scandal broke. The therapeutic team that dug in on me insisted that I did not have a spiritual problem or a problem with cognitive ability, and that I tested in normal ranges on all of my mental health tests (MMPI, etc.).” he wrote. “Instead, I had a physiological problem rooted in a childhood trauma, and as a result, needed trauma resolution therapy. I had been traumatized when I was 7 years old, but when Bill Bright led me to the Lord when I was 16, I learned that I had become a new creature, a new person, and that I did not need to be concerned about anything in my past, that it was all covered by the blood.”

But Haggard said that his past was still impacting his life.

In the end, the former megapastor claimed that his Christian training was delivered by people who didn’t respect the mental health and neural science professions. This translated, he wrote, into a counterproductive situation, as he was taught to view all issues as being entirely spiritual in nature.

“If I prayed and fasted, I was more tempted. If I just worked in ministry, I experienced relief and was not tempted,” Haggard continued. “I thought it was spiritual warfare. It was not. My struggle was easily explained by a competent therapeutic team.”

Haggard said that he believes wholeheartedly in the Bible, but that Christianity has “abandoned the application of the gospel” and that, as a result, too much time is spent on image management and damage control.

“Every one of us have had sin horribly intrude in our lives after being saved and filled with the Holy Spirit, and God is faithfully healing us or has healed us,” he continued. “Why don’t we tell that? He has never left us or forsaken us when we’ve said and done the wrong thing. Why don’t we tell that?”


TOPICS: General Discusssion
KEYWORDS: haggard; homosexualagenda; pastors; sin
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To: Gamecock

He, like all of us is a sinner. Pray for him


41 posted on 01/15/2014 8:35:37 PM PST by Moleman
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To: AppyPappy

If they just love the attention, and the high regard accorded them by the congregation, and they don’t get caught, what’s the point in contrition, contrived or not?


42 posted on 01/15/2014 8:40:03 PM PST by SunkenCiv (;http://www.freerepublic.com/~mestamachine/)
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To: SERE_DOC

I can forgive anyone just about anything, and I know that God can and will forgive it all. I could be a friend of someone like this, and I could worship together with him as co-heirs of God. However, what I can’t accept is someone who has had such a disgraceful and public comeuppance return to the pulpit and resume the responsibility of leading a new congregation. New Life was right to send him packing. It is disgraceful that he has started a new church (saintjameschurch.com) and just as disgraceful that many of the New Life congregants, many of them the big donor types, left with him.


43 posted on 01/15/2014 8:45:57 PM PST by Benito Cereno
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To: Gamecock
Just tonight, we had a Bible Study titled: "Salvation is of the Lord." which examined the popular Christian myth that 'Born Again' is a 15 minute process and that you are a new creation, spiritually there and then at Baptism.

Self examination and temptations occur forever - even to the next life. We are never perfect. Repentance/Reformation/Regeneration is a process.

If your Church is scamming you with 'instant' Salvation, run! Find a real Church that tells the truth!

44 posted on 01/15/2014 8:54:29 PM PST by DaveMSmith (Evil Comes from Falsity, So Share the Truth)
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To: DaveMSmith

There will be no temptation in heaven, there will be no sin.


45 posted on 01/15/2014 10:10:23 PM PST by ThisLittleLightofMine
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To: DaveMSmith

But I must add that one is saved and it is a continual action.


46 posted on 01/15/2014 10:16:09 PM PST by ThisLittleLightofMine
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To: ThisLittleLightofMine

Do you have Scripture saying that spiritual beings do not have temptation? Only the Lord is perfect. The Ten Commandments have an internal/spiritual meaning, like Jesus saying adultery including lusting in the heart...


47 posted on 01/15/2014 10:16:16 PM PST by DaveMSmith (Evil Comes from Falsity, So Share the Truth)
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To: Gamecock; mlizzy; Arthur McGowan; mc5cents; RichInOC; Prince of Space; JoeFromSidney; ...

“Jesus said to them again, ‘Peace be with you. As the Father has sent me, even so I send you.’ And when he had said this, he breathed on them, and said to them, ‘Receive the Holy Spirit. If you forgive the sins of any, they are forgiven; if you retain the sins of any, they are retained.’ “


48 posted on 01/15/2014 10:16:21 PM PST by narses (... unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you do not have life within you.)
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To: DaveMSmith; ThisLittleLightofMine

1 Corinthians 15:42
So also is the resurrection of the dead. It is sown in corruption; it is raised in incorruption


49 posted on 01/15/2014 10:22:54 PM PST by mitch5501 ("make your calling and election sure: for if ye do these things ye shall never fall")
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To: DaveMSmith

Romans 6:4-7
1 John 3:2
1 Cor 15:52

Do you have verses that support temptation in heaven? Can a Holy God allow this?


50 posted on 01/15/2014 10:25:37 PM PST by ThisLittleLightofMine
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To: mitch5501

I read that verse as corruption of a natural body, which is why I believe Jesus Christ will never walk this earth again.


51 posted on 01/15/2014 10:27:14 PM PST by DaveMSmith (Evil Comes from Falsity, So Share the Truth)
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To: ThisLittleLightofMine

Lord, lead us not into temptation...


52 posted on 01/15/2014 10:28:32 PM PST by DaveMSmith (Evil Comes from Falsity, So Share the Truth)
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To: narses

Of course, Jesus also gave the Apostles the gift of telepathy, so they would never, ever have to hear anybody’s confession.


53 posted on 01/15/2014 10:35:02 PM PST by Arthur McGowan
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To: Arthur McGowan

:)

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54 posted on 01/15/2014 10:36:15 PM PST by narses (... unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you do not have life within you.)
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To: DaveMSmith
Revelation 21:27 "And there shall in no wise enter into it any thing that defileth, neither whatsoever worketh abomination, or maketh a lie: but they which are written in the Lamb's book of life."

Nothing that corrupts will enter God's kingdom.Even if it did or could,it would be a waste of time...we are raised immortal and incorruptible.Both corruption an mortality have death at their end and death will be cast into the lake.

55 posted on 01/15/2014 10:36:44 PM PST by mitch5501 ("make your calling and election sure: for if ye do these things ye shall never fall")
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To: iowamark

I love the “steam boiler” theory of sex. I.e., if only pedophiles could be married, they wouldn’t mess with children.


56 posted on 01/15/2014 10:38:36 PM PST by Arthur McGowan
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To: Gamecock

Okay I have to ask.

who is Issac Hunter?


57 posted on 01/15/2014 10:56:19 PM PST by Morgana (Always a bit of truth in dark humor.)
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To: Gamecock; markomalley
These are individual incidents. Can we blame all for individual mental incidents?

Evangelicals have a wide variety of beliefs and practices. One can't say it's a group problem as there does not seem to be any common point

58 posted on 01/15/2014 11:16:07 PM PST by Cronos (ObamaÂ’s dislike of Assad is not based on AssadÂ’s brutality but that he isn't a jihadi Moslem)
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To: Gamecock

Barf alert

Tks Glenn....really


59 posted on 01/15/2014 11:23:49 PM PST by wardaddy (wifey instructed me today to grow chapter president beard back again....i wonder why?)
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To: PAR35; markomalley
imho, we should not fall into either of two extremes: dismissing everything about us as utterly evil, that would take us to Catharism, nor that we are utterly capable of good without God's help.

We are made in His image, so we can't be all bad, yet we are tainted, so we can't even attempt to be as good as Him without His help.

60 posted on 01/15/2014 11:25:05 PM PST by Cronos (ObamaÂ’s dislike of Assad is not based on AssadÂ’s brutality but that he isn't a jihadi Moslem)
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