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Scientists Claim That Quantum Theory Proves Consciousness Moves To Another Universe At Death
Spirit, Science and Metaphysics ^

Posted on 01/17/2014 7:43:11 PM PST by DaveMSmith

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To: EBH
Science doesn't even touch on consciousness, much less explain it.

Anybody who thinks science is all they need to know is not nearly as smart as they think they are.

121 posted on 01/19/2014 6:05:42 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Who knew that one day professional wrestling would be less fake than professional journalism?)
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To: noinfringers2

Thank you deeply for that testimony.


122 posted on 01/19/2014 8:08:15 PM PST by Varsity Flight (Extortion-Care is the Government Work-Camp: Arbeitsziehungslager)
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To: Elsie

Profile of a sick being

...anyone who spends their time stalking another person everyday hours on end because they disagree who wantonly bullies and post endless hate and meanness, something is seriously wrong with them it just isn’t normal.

Something greatly is missing in their life or a great lost somewhere...

I pray the Lord fine a way to comfort this stalker.


123 posted on 01/19/2014 9:06:14 PM PST by restornu
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To: restornu

You are constantly posting Mormonism drek as if it is Christian material, then whine about someone posting opposition to the fantasies. Now you whine that to oppose your drek is stalking you, in your mind. Do you still not see what Mormonism is doing to your soul/the mind of your soul?


124 posted on 01/19/2014 9:21:30 PM PST by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: MHGinTN

My goodness are you following me?

If there is anything Mormon on this thread it was not posted by me...


125 posted on 01/19/2014 9:43:00 PM PST by restornu
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To: ETL; TigersEye

These guys seem more like monks or Himalayan gurus>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

For over a thousand years they have been doing what these theoretical physicists have “discovered.”

Google: “transference of consciousness, Tibet”

Here is one of the many articles you would see on the topic:

http://www.sacred-texts.com/bud/tib/phowa.htm

What the scientists have discovered is not a discovery. It is a “rediscovery.” This so called discovery has been practiced for a very long time. And it works.


126 posted on 01/20/2014 2:58:17 AM PST by Candor7 (Obama fascism article:(http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html))
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To: restornu
...anyone who spends their time stalking another person everyday hours on end because they disagree who wantonly bullies and post endless hate and meanness, something is seriously wrong with them it just isn’t normal.

We're SO sorry you feel this way.


Perhaps reflecting upon your FUTURE in Mormonism can help...

127 posted on 01/20/2014 3:06:33 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: restornu
If there is anything Mormon on this thread it was not posted by me...

HMMMmmm...

Sure SOUNDS 'mormon' to me!


#100 It is so hard for some to think beyond their sphere or allow the Lord to lift them to greater understanding of his universe.

128 posted on 01/20/2014 3:09:04 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: restornu; MHGinTN
Mormons read this verse in the Beatitudes and apply in to themselves:

Matthew 5:11
"Blessed are you when people insult you, persecute you and falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of me.

They feel all persecuted and 'christiany' just reading it.

The first seventeen words anyway.



Somehow; when they get to the third "you", their mind must disengage from the ending of it "...because of me."


Mormons; I'll agree that you get insulted, persecuted, all kinds of evil said against you.

But...

it isn't BECAUSE OF JESUS!


It's 'because' you have chosen to follow a charlatan; espousing a demonic 'religion'; that is blatently ANTI-Christian at it's very core.


Trying to blame JESUS and HIS teachings for it is; well; not correct.

129 posted on 01/20/2014 3:19:09 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: restornu
My goodness are you following me?

Ain't the SEARCH function WONDERFUL!!!

(And that In_Forum one works great; too!)

130 posted on 01/20/2014 3:23:16 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: restornu
My goodness are you following me?

You have posted in this thread; THESE guys haven't ---> Normandy; teppe; trebb; StormPrepper; Grig.


THEY would be the ones with a complaint; if they were truly bothered by being invited to express THEIR views on this subject; if it somehow unduly infringes on their rights in some manner.

131 posted on 01/20/2014 3:57:35 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: DaveMSmith
Scientists Claim That Quantum Theory Proves Consciousness Moves To Another Universe At Death


2 Timothy 4:3-4
3. For the time will come when men will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear.
4. They will turn their ears away from the truth and turn aside to myths.

132 posted on 01/20/2014 4:02:31 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: DaveMSmith

Happy MLK Day!!!



“Swedenborg enables us to understand why we were created, why we are alive, and what happens to us after our bodies die.
Swedenborg enables us to have the best possible understanding of God’s message as it exists in those Bible books which constitutes God’s Word.”
- Rev Dr Martin Luther King

133 posted on 01/20/2014 4:04:16 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

https://www.google.com/search?q=%0D%0A%E2%80%9CSwedenborg+enables+us+to+understand+why+we+were+created%2C+why+we+are+alive%2C+and+what+happens+to+us+after+our+bodies+die.&sourceid=ie7&rls=com.microsoft:en-US:IE-ContextMenu&ie=&oe=&rlz=1I7ADRA_enUS475


134 posted on 01/20/2014 4:08:27 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: boatbums
I'd be curious to see how these scientists could ever go about proving such a theory.

A proof would mean it is no longer science. They would have to call it "abstract mathematical consciousness" or "religion".

135 posted on 01/20/2014 4:14:44 AM PST by palmer (Obama = Carter + affirmative action)
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To: DeFault User; E. Pluribus Unum
Nothing exists without a conscious observer

That would mean nothing exists.

136 posted on 01/20/2014 4:19:54 AM PST by palmer (Obama = Carter + affirmative action)
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To: Elsie

AHhhh...

Another polar vortex coming!

Time to get dry wood in for the fireplace, cocoa stocked up in the pantry, and favorite old videos ready for enjoyment again, as the winds howl outside our door.

It could also be a good time to review wonderful old FR threads; too!

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2657760/posts?page=11


137 posted on 01/20/2014 4:25:20 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Candor7

Please, take a listen to the the guy I recommended. Unless you totally reject science, even that of which attempts to make a connection between the real world and the spiritual as he does so amazingly.

Try this one as a starter:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzafB6NKHis


138 posted on 01/20/2014 4:54:02 AM PST by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: DaveMSmith
I read through the comments but saw nothing but pure mysticism and mysticism wrapped around a bit of poorly understood science. But the most concrete research shows that consciousness is an illusion, simply a trick we play on ourselves. Tests show that "free will" actions occur after the subject believes that they have performed the action. There may be a role for quantum mechanics but probably only to generate some random inputs to what we believe to be spontaneous free will thoughts and actions.

Also on the quantum theory idea, there is measureable instantaneous interaction with quantum particles in distant locations. It opens the possibility of "another universe" interacting with our consciousness before death. Not sure about the effect if any in the other direction and it doesn't appear likely after death.

139 posted on 01/20/2014 4:57:35 AM PST by palmer (Obama = Carter + affirmative action)
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To: Candor7

Other, perhaps better, examples here:

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=%22lothar%20schafer%22&sm=12


140 posted on 01/20/2014 5:02:38 AM PST by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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