Posted on 01/27/2014 3:23:41 AM PST by markomalley
From my experience you can use alcohol in moderation, have few drunks feel good and go home. When people light up their intention is to get high, stoned, completely baked, gonzo. There is no moderation at all.
There’s a very good reason why they call it ‘dope’.
the penalties for possession and use of pot causes far greater harm to the individual than the drug itself...
that is my stance, and my sole reason for legalization (or decriminalization)...
From MY experience you can use reefer in moderation, smoke a couple of joints feel good and go home. When people
sit down at a bar to drink, their intention is to get high, stoned, completely baked, gonzo. There is no moderation at all
I've never seen anyone just smoke a little, they always go full bore. Again this is my experience only.
Alcohol has about the same absorbtion rate as reefer, but stays a lot longer in the system and overloads the kidneys and other cleansing organs.
A reefer high is zapped when you see the red and blue lights in your mirror.
Drinkers try to talk without a slur ... smokers ask politely what they were being stopped for.
If no evidence in either car ... the smoker has a better chance of sleeping in his bed tonight.
There IS a difference
I guess your a stoner. No talking to your guys.
Sorry to be so short. I guess from my experience if yo have a few drinks you can socialize with others who may not be drinking, relate to people that have had a few drinks too. When i was in high school my friends got baked, and could only relate to the other stoned people. It isn’t a lot of fun hanging around stoned people on reefer when you are not stoned yourself. It is an exclusive club.
You say tomayto, I say tomahto ... let's call the whole thing off
Are we less brothers because we disagree on how to recreate ?
“Are we less brothers because we disagree on how to recreate ?”
+1
A few drinks? That's called inebriation, even if the drinker doesn't realize it.
I weight 180# two gin and tonics and I am not drunk, Come on.
In 2290, the word "drunkenness" appears and when present, is what makes alcohol consumption a grave matter.
The problem is, with pot, just as is described in the article and just as anyone who smoked/smokes it today or in recent times knows, literally one drag and you're high. It's not like alcohol where most normal people can have a sip of whiskey and not be drunk. One "inhalation" and you're high, period.
"High" to the point of being like you're drunk, and that's the connection. It's not like being drunk but you're just as incapacitated, in a general sense. Your coordination may not be impared but other faculties certainly are, and your perception of reality certainly is impared. Again, after only one hit.
That's the answer to your question. IMO. Just as it's a grave sin to get drunk, it's a grave sin to get high. And it's impossible to not get high on pot; this isn't the pot from the 60's or even 70's we're talking here. This is potent stuff.
With all that said, if one smokes it for a valid medical reason and it's legal to do so in one's state, that would not be a sin as it would be the same as taking any therapeutic drug with side effects. (By the way I personally support legalization for that purpose, but only that purpose and not vague, "depression" issues, abused as excuses to consume it like in California, but real, verifiable medical issues that are under a doctor's care and supervison)
Hope that helps.
Very good post.
For thousands of years Western civilization has always rejected pot and hashish, while having an alcohol based culture for health and entertainment and relaxation and socializing, those regions that preferred Cannabis to alcohol, look just like what one would expect them to look like, they look like what we see happen almost immediately to stoners, they become a sort of pod people so similar that it is is like something out of a science fiction movie.
Re #34: Well met, Race.
uh...yep
I’ve said it before, I’ll say it again: CANNABIS PREVENTS SEIZURES. I’ve suffered with epilepsy throughout my life, from about the age of five. The medications play hell on my body and mind. Cannabis works for me.
You can say it before and say it all you want... if you like smoking pot...go for it. Just don't come up with the "scientific" miracle cure for all that ails the world when half the pot that most people get is cut with who knows what or dusted with another compound to really "get the buzz, bra..'".
It's anecdotal evidence that the marijuana you smoke is what made you stop having seizures. What chemical in the literal buffet of chemicals in the marijuana you are purchasing is the x factor that makes you stop seizing and by what mechanism? Being that you somehow have 100% anticonvulsant success with the special blend that you've come upon. By all means, subject it to a double blinded study with reproducible results and publish your data..... if you can put remember to put down the bong, wipe the Cheetos from the front of your shirt and amble on down to the lab.
Do you also feel that people who smoke cigarettes and drink alcohol are not able to compete in the job field?
Well if you operate a gas pump or work with flammable chemicals,work in a hospital with pulmonary patients and high flow oxygen, grain silo or in a coal mine... ya just might want to put down the cig...just saying
I can't think of any job that might be performed better if you drank on the job...maybe you can enlighten me on that one...
Is there any other morality that you would like to legislate? Maybe we can improve society if we court order church attendance?
You can't legislate morality. That's what is so pathetic about the marijuana legalization scam. It's a way for your senses to be dulled and for you to be easier to control. Eh... but if that's what you want... free country, blah, blah, blah.. light up and make sure your kids do to. In fact I advocate everybody in your gene pool should get a 50 gallon barrel in the morning, stuff it full of some choice Chocolope or Super Silver Haze .. maybe get some of those nebulizer machines that asthmatic or emphysema patients use, hook up the face masks and go to town. Cause my family and my self are competing with you for jobs, opportunities and creating wealth... I like it when my competition is chilling out and worried if Taco Bell is having a sale on hard tacos.
they should keep doctors out of the prescribing for marijuana. Then the state becomes the drug kingpin and the doctor is his street pusher.
Good to know. Then I can steal your car and get away with it, right?
More than slight use causes brain changes.
Almost all violent offenders in prison just love their pot.
We don’t need it and it should be hard to get except for the cancer patients.
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