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1 posted on 02/20/2014 11:57:12 AM PST by NYer
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You can watch the video HERE. The pope's message begins at about 31:35 after Bishop Tony Palmer delivers a speech to a Kenneth Copeland Ministries about the importance of Christian unity for preaching salvation in Christ to the world.
2 posted on 02/20/2014 11:57:32 AM PST by NYer ("The wise man is the one who can save his soul. - St. Nimatullah Al-Hardini)
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I don’t disagree with anything he said.

For the night is coming when no man can work.


3 posted on 02/20/2014 12:01:09 PM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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There can be no unity ... apart from truth.
4 posted on 02/20/2014 12:04:19 PM PST by dartuser
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"Let's allow our longing to increase so that it propels us to find each other..."

Translation: Let's follow emotions rather than having a honest debate on objective truth in God's Word.

NO SALE.

5 posted on 02/20/2014 12:35:28 PM PST by Salvavida (The restoration of the U.S.A. starts with filling the pews at every Bible-believing church.)
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Christian unity is also important so as to repel their common enemy — Islam.


8 posted on 02/20/2014 12:49:58 PM PST by 353FMG
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The infamous Rodney King solution to every problem: “Can’t we all just get along?” And the answer is always,”No, unless you give in to me.”


9 posted on 02/20/2014 12:52:02 PM PST by txrefugee
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As an Evangelical, I am honestly confused about why the 1999 Catholic-Lutheran Joint Declaration on the Doctrine of Justification has not resulted in more unity. It seems that the 14 year old news that we agree on the basics of the gospel has not filtered down to the masses.

My active practicing Catholic relatives do not seem to believe that salvation is “by grace alone, in faith in Christ’s saving work and not because of any merit on our part, we are accepted by God and receive the Holy Spirit, who renews our hearts while equipping and calling us to good works.” And unfortunately, many of my Evangelical friends do not believe Catholics can be Christians, because they think Catholicism teaches a works based salvation.

I’d be interested in knowing what the Catholic FReepers think. I came to Christ primarily because my Catholic mother-in-law prayed for me to accept Christ as my Savior for over 10 years. I am convinced she is in heaven today because of her faith. She wept with joy the day my husband and I told her we had accepted Christ and had become active in and Evangelical church.


10 posted on 02/20/2014 12:53:43 PM PST by keats5 (Not all of us are hypnotized.)
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In an unusual video message, recorded on an iPhone by a Pentecostal pastor Pope Francis knew in Argentina, the pope says all Christians share blame for their divisions, speaks of his "longing" for their unity and insists that God will bring the miracle of Christian unity to completion. "Pray to the Lord that he will unite us all," the pope tells a group of Pentecostals meeting in the United States. "Let's move forward, we are brothers; let us give each other that spiritual embrace and allow the Lord to complete the work he has begun. Because this is a miracle; the miracle of unity has begun."

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13 posted on 02/20/2014 1:02:26 PM PST by Alex Murphy ("the defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades")
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Late one night, the Pope awoke to a vision from God —

God: “I am sorely displeased that my children have not heeded my voice and are violently divided from each other, rather than united in truth and love. The Good News is that I am creating a new dispensation in which all men shall be united as members of one faith.”

Pope: “Oh! Praise! Lord, that IS good news!”

God: “The Bad News is, I’m calling you from Salt Lake City.”


14 posted on 02/20/2014 1:20:33 PM PST by TexasRepublic (Socialism is the gospel of envy and the religion of thieves)
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Not just the right thing to do, but the smart thing to do. Here, in Latin America and elsewhere, the evangelical and Pentecostal movements are too big, with too many former members in their flock, for the Church to ignore.


16 posted on 02/20/2014 1:41:03 PM PST by RichInOC (2013-14 Tiber Swim Team)
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With the upcoming Easter this year being shared by all the Christian Churches, this could be a true blessing in itself.


17 posted on 02/20/2014 1:45:12 PM PST by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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There are certainly areas where we can work together. But that pope might have looked like a foot washing Baptist for a little bit, but he just called us to go to confession. That Pope’s Catholic!


20 posted on 02/20/2014 1:46:43 PM PST by DannyTN
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Palmer said that the Catholic-Protestant divisions have had no reason to exist since the 1999 Catholic-Lutheran Joint Declaration on the Doctrine of Justification. The agreement recognized that "by grace alone, in faith in Christ's saving work and not because of any merit on our part, we are accepted by God and receive the Holy Spirit, who renews our hearts while equipping and calling us to good works."

No baptism...No Eucharist...No sacraments...Grace by faith without works...

I don't think the Catholics agreed to this...

22 posted on 02/20/2014 2:08:29 PM PST by Iscool (Ya mess with me, you mess with the WHOLE trailer park...)
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Someone please pass the Vatican II false ecumenism barf bag.


23 posted on 02/20/2014 2:12:02 PM PST by piusv
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I love my Catholic friends, but how can we get past the Council of Trent?

AFAIK, that body of Catholic authorities declared all Protestants heretics and that declaration never been rescinded.

Not gonna pick a fight, and we MUST hold hands together against the fascists, but neither can we ignore the gaps in our theological divide. :)


24 posted on 02/20/2014 2:19:44 PM PST by SoFloFreeper
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Let's allow our longing to increase so that it propels us to find each other

Even if the rotten fruits of this "longing" are a diminution of the Mother of God and of the Papacy? De-emphasizing Catholic teachings in order to gain the approval of non-Catholics who find Church teachings repugnant smacks of a bait and switch strategy toward ecumenism (unless the ultimate objective actually is to incrementally alter Church teachings in order to promote convergence toward a more generally acceptable pan-Christian creed).

Meanwhile, the scandalous disunity among the shepherds (under the guise of collegiality) is relentlessly ignored.

28 posted on 02/20/2014 2:29:33 PM PST by BlatherNaut
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“It is better to be divided by truth than united in error.”

—Dr. Adrian Rogers

Unless and until Rome accepts the biblical gospel, separation from Rome is the only choice for believers. Indeed, it’s demanded by Scripture.

The Reformer’s Separation from Rome
http://www.sermonaudio.com/sermoninfo.asp?SID=101302211954

“And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them.” (Ephesians 5:11)


29 posted on 02/20/2014 2:42:11 PM PST by .45 Long Colt
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**”Brothers and sisters, Luther’s protest is over,” Palmer told his audience. “Is yours?”

**Great line for some posters on FR!


30 posted on 02/20/2014 2:50:49 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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The Catholic Church will never reject higher criticism or evolutionism because the very identity of Catholicism is now wedded to those two concepts (to differentiate it from Protestant Fundamentalism).

Furthermore, despite all the hoo-ha about how the liberal Vatican II recognized the validity of the Jewish covenant with G-d, Catholic apologeticists still make a punching bag out of Fundamentalist devotion to the significance of the Jewish presence in the Holy Land. I'm afraid all the liberal philo-Judaism is largely window dressing.

So long as these three things stand in the way, he's never going to have "unity" with people whose beliefs his church condemns.

38 posted on 02/20/2014 5:17:12 PM PST by Zionist Conspirator (The Left: speaking power to truth since Shevirat HaKelim.)
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"Let's allow our longing to increase so that it propels us to find each other, embrace each other and to praise Jesus Christ as the only Lord of history," the pope said.

How can so many people be lost at the same time?

43 posted on 02/20/2014 7:14:49 PM PST by ebb tide
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