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Fr. Z’s 1st reaction to Bp. Olson banning Extraordinary Form at FW’s Fisher More College-Update @7
WDTPRS ^ | 3/3/2014 | Fr John Zuhlsdorf

Posted on 03/03/2014 10:29:03 AM PST by markomalley

My mail box has filled up this morning with reports that the Bishop of Fort Worth, Most Rev. Michael Olson, who was recently consecrated and installed in his see in November 2013 at a mere 47 years of age, has “banned” celebrations of Mass in the Extraordinary Form at the chapel of Fisher More College.

The source of these reports seems to be the blog Rorate Caeli, which provides a copy of the letter that Bp. Olson sent to Mister Michael King, who is the President of Fisher More College.

Here is the letter, which I found at the aforementioned blog:

None of us are privy to the conversation, mentioned by the bishop in his letter, that took place on 24 February.  I have no idea what the tone of that conversation was or how many conversations took place.

However, I am appalled at the tone of the Bp. Olson’s letter to Mr. King.  Frankly, it reminds me of a note an authoritarian seminary rector would pin on the mailroom bulletin board about student attire or lights-out time, rather then gentle pastoral solicitude of a diocesan bishop in the era of Pope Francis.  I am shocked at the suggestion that this decision is taken for the sake of the souls of the students and the president himself, as if the Extraordinary Form were somehow spiritually harmful.

That said, what we don’t know about this situation could fill volumes.

For example, I discern in the bishop’s second point, the one about his granting faculties, the possibility that the priest who had been saying Mass at Fisher More on a regular basis may not have had any faculties at all, from any bishop or religious superior.  I suspect that there is more to that poorly phrased second point than meets the eye.

Also, while some Catholic college and university chaplaincies also have the canonical designation as a parish (e.g., St. Paul’s at the University of Madison), Summorum Pontificum doesn’t seem to apply as clearly.  The Motu Proprio doesn’t seem to apply to college chapels and chapels on military bases.  That said, the spirit of both Summorum Pontificum and Universae Ecclesiae communicate something far different from the tone, at least, of the bishop’s letter.

Again, what we don’t know about this situation could fill volumes.  I, at least, don’t know who the priests were who were saying that Mass for the students at Fisher More.  Were they of the SSPX or some independent group?  Were they preaching things that were improper (e.g., attacking Pope Francis from the pulpit)?  More will come out, and soon.

In the meantime, it is hard to imagine why a letter with such a menacing tone would be sent to a layman about something which soon-to-be St. John Paul II described as a “legitimate aspiration”.  You will recall that Bl. John Paul asked, nay rather, required by his apostolic authority, that respect be shown to those who desire the traditional forms of the Roman Rite (cf. Ecclesia Dei adflicta, 6c).

My first hope and prayer, and petition to the Guardian Angels of those involved, is for cool heads and a positive resolution to this conflict so that the students and staff of Fisher More will be able to have their legitimate aspirations respected according to the will of St. John Paul and Benedict XVI.


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To: markomalley

**Fr. Nicholas Gruner, the suspended Fatima Priest, said Mass at FMC**

Is this suspended priest the only priest saying Mass at this college?

If so, I see why the Bishop banned the TLM. (Probably the priest wasn’t qualified to celebrate it.)


21 posted on 03/03/2014 4:15:25 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: ebb tide

Jubilant no more.


22 posted on 03/03/2014 4:45:58 PM PST by BlatherNaut
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To: BlatherNaut

A List of College Chaplains Since 2010 - Fisher More College

With regard to chaplains who have exercised priestly ministries (Holy Mass and Confessions) at the College chapel:

Mass Durer

1. Every chaplain has been a priest in good standing with faculties from his Ordinary.

2. Every chaplain has had the approval of his superior to offer Mass and hear Confessions in the College chapel.

3. Every chaplain was given permission to exercise his faculties for Mass and Confession at the College chapel by the Ordinary (or Administrator acting in his stead) of the Catholic Diocese of Fort Worth.

The priests who have offered a public Mass in the Extraordinary Form and heard Confessions at the College chapel since August 2010 are the following:

1. Fr. Simon Zayas, TOR
2. Fr. Juan Diego, CFR
3. Fr. Samuel Weber, OSB
4. Fr. Thomas Longua, FSSP
5. Fr. Philip Wolfe, FSSP
6. Fr. Joseph Orlowski, FSSP
7. Fr. Christopher Henderson, CFM

Of the priests listed above, those who lived in-residence and/or were approved for assignment by their superiors and given permission by the Diocese of Fort Worth to exercise their faculties as chaplains at Fisher More College (whether for temporary or permanent assignments) included:

Fr. Simon Zayas, TOR
Fr. Samuel Weber, OSB
Fr. Joseph Orlowski, FSSP
Fr. Christopher Henderson, CFM

The other three priests (i.e., Fr. Juan Diego, CFR, Fr. Longua, FSSP, and Fr. Wolfe, FSSP) are priests who made either occasional or regular weekly visits to the campus for the purpose of offering Mass and hearing Confessions in the College chapel. In other words, these three priests were not officially assigned as chaplains to the College (as was the case with the four priests listed above), but rather they either occasionally or regularly assisted in the functions of the College chaplaincy. The College is grateful for, and deeply indebted to, all of these holy priests who served our students and staff.

In each case of the four priests listed above as temporary or permanent chaplains, the Fort Worth Diocese received written confirmation directly from their superiors confirming that the priests were in good standing and had the approval of the superior for the assignment. The College is confident that the Fort Worth chancery can confirm that the appropriate documentation was received for each of the priests listed above.

No public Mass of any Form has ever been offered in the College chapel by a priest lacking regular faculties. Over the past three years, the College has been privileged to host priests as overnight visitors to our campus, many of whom used the Chapel to offer private Masses, including priests from the Friars of the Immaculate, the Institute of Christ the King Sovereign Priest, and the Priestly Fraternity of Saint Peter.

Benedicamus Domino

JMJ

http://fishermore.edu/list-college-chaplains-since-2010/


23 posted on 03/03/2014 7:35:36 PM PST by ebb tide
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To: Salvation

December 2013 – Fr. Nicholas Gruner, founder and director of the International Fatima Rosary Crusade, lectured on the Message of Fatima and its relevance today.

Note: In the days prior to the arrival of Fr. Gruner for his lecture, the College was made aware of allegations that Fr. Gruner had been suspended a divinis. After investigating the public record of this matter and obtaining an explanation directly from Fr. Gruner himself, the College learned that no Bishop has ever issued a sentence suspending Father a divinis, and that Father has two separate letters from the Archbishop of Hyderabad confirming (1995) and reaffirming (1999) his incardination in that diocese. In any event, Father was coming to our campus to speak on the message of Fatima, and not to exercise any priestly ministries. Thus, the College proceeded with the event.

http://fishermore.edu/guest-speakers-fisher-college/


24 posted on 03/03/2014 7:50:21 PM PST by ebb tide
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To: ebb tide

There is never a good reason to ban the Mass of all Time. Here we have a Bishop using the TLM as a weapon. If there are issues at the college, then deal with those issues. Don’t take away the Mass.

We don’t know the whole story, but I can’t imagine any scenario warranting this.

Could you imagine any bishop taking away the NO from any so-called liberal “Catholic” college?


25 posted on 03/04/2014 4:18:27 AM PST by piusv
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To: ebb tide

Father Gruner’s Status as a Catholic Priest

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Xh4-6muhoA


26 posted on 03/04/2014 5:37:36 AM PST by BlatherNaut
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To: markomalley

Dr. Taylor Marshall:

https://www.facebook.com/DrTaylorMarshall?ref=stream&hc_location=timeline
“I am preparing some comments on Fisher More. I want to pray and make sure that all is said in charity and truth. Most people don’t know the whole story about Fisher More and so they are scandalized. I hope to find a way for people to see that there is a horrible pastoral situation at FMC and the Bishop is acting rightly (and not in violation of SP).”


27 posted on 03/04/2014 6:40:39 AM PST by iowamark (I must study politics and war that my sons may have liberty to study mathematics and philosophy)
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To: iowamark

When does “a horrible pastoral situation” ever warrant using the TLM as a weapon?


28 posted on 03/04/2014 6:43:59 AM PST by piusv
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To: iowamark

I figured as much. Thank you. The truth is always the best thing for our hearts.


29 posted on 03/04/2014 7:54:55 AM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: piusv
When does “a horrible pastoral situation” ever warrant using the TLM as a weapon

It's a terrible precedent, regardless of the peripheral issues (of which we have only heard one man's opinion). It would be nice to hear Dr. King's side and view the financials. The letter from the bishop which effectively stripped the students of their daily TLM is clearly unpastoral on its face. And one wonders why a professor would accept a job teaching at a school which openly welcomes Novus Ordo, SSPX and everything in between and later label the same place a danger to his soul. Hopefully the truth will at some point be revealed.

30 posted on 03/04/2014 8:56:46 AM PST by BlatherNaut
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To: irishjuggler; iowamark; piusv; Mrs. Don-o; RitaOK; Dr. Sivana; BlatherNaut; pbear8; Salvation
Yet another update, courtesy of Dr. Taylor Marshall (former chancellor of FMC):

Regarding Fisher More College and what you're reading in Rorate Caeli:

Now that the Bishop of Fort Worth has weighed in (and is now being maligned), after much prayer, I feel that I should break the silence.

First off, I love the students at Fisher More College (FMC). I love them so much. It was heartbreaking for me to leave FMC. Last summer (2013) was very difficult for me. I also love the Latin Mass and write about it often on my blog and talk about it publicly (my family belongs to a FSSP parish – Mater Dei parish in Irving, Texas).

For the record, I resigned as Chancellor of the College at the beginning of June of 2013—only days after our seventh baby was born. I had no job prospects and no income. I did it for the sake of conscience. I felt it would be a danger to my soul to remain at Fisher More College.

I resigned when moral, theological, and financial discrepancies came to light regarding the presidency of Michael King. I was an ex officio member of the Board so I knew what others did not. From May to early June of 2013, five of the eight College Board Members also resigned for two reasons:

1) Mr. King refused to disassociate himself from the public statements of faculty member Dr. Dudley that claimed in his Year of Faith lecture that Catholic professors have the duty to teach young people that Vatican 2 is not a valid Council (he also endorsed other “resistance” positions regarding the Novus Ordo, John Paul II, etc.)

2) Mr. King, after selling the original FMC campus to Texas Christian University for millions of dollars, had imprudently entered into a real estate deal that financially crippled Fisher More College.

Much of the politicization around the “Latin Mass and FMC” is Mr. King’s careful attempt to distract attention away from his financial misdealing at FMC. The college is currently teetering on bankruptcy and this latest entanglement with the bishop will lead to a public statement: “Fisher More closed down because the new bishop of Fort Worth persecuted the Latin Mass!” when in reality the College is failing because Mr. King entered into a dubious real estate deal that washed out college’s endowment AND all the proceeds from the sale of the original campus.

How did a College sell its extremely valuable campus to TCU for several millions dollars in 2012 only to announce at Christmas 2013 that it might be closing without an immediate fund raising campaign through Rorate Caeli?

Rorate Caeli has just released their sensational “exclusive” report on how the new Bishop of Fort Worth is persecuting the traditional Latin Mass in the person of Michael King. They included the (private) letter of Bishop Olson to Michael King and offered their speculation.

This controversy created by Rorate Caeli with the help of Michael King’s letter is not about the Latin Mass or Summorum Pontificum.*

FMC hosted a public repudiation of Vatican 2 and the Ordinary Form of the Mass in April of 2013 that was so offensive that my wife and I walked out of it before it’s conclusion. That did not do much to heal the breach with the local diocese or presbyterate and it contributed to the priests of the Priestly Fraternity of Saint Peter (FSSP) discontinuing their support and presence at FMC. The current FMC website advertises that the FSSP provides a chaplain, but this is not true.

At the same time, Michael King estranged himself from the diocese of Fort Worth by not allowing the Ordinary Form (as stipulated by the previous ordinary Bishop Vann of Fort Worth). He also contracted an irregular/suspended priest without faculties, and hired “trad resistance” faculty while there was no bishop in Fort Worth to check these developments. Mr. King was able to create a community in his image (he affectionately referred to himself the “father” of this community) during the episcopal inter-regnum of the diocese of Fort Worth.

Clearly, a bishop's intervention was inevitable. The current controversy really has nothing to do with the Latin Mass per se. The Latin Mass is at the center because Michael King is politicizing the Latin Mass in his favor, knowing that “bishops vs the Latin Mass” is red meat for some traditionalist blogs.

Bishop Olson says in the letter that he is doing this for Michael King's "soul." The bishop understands that this is a personal intervention – and not an attack on Fisher More College or its students or the Latin Mass.

It's a serious pastoral problem. Mr. King no doubt leaked Bp Olson’s letter via one of his few supporters to build sympathy before the inevitable financial collapse that will expose his mishandling of Fisher More College. Mr. King, more than anything, would like to blame the inevitable collapse of FMC (within only weeks or months) on the bishop’s “persecution of the Latin Mass.”

Hold your peace. Watch for how it unfolds, and most of all pray for the students that are still dutifully studying and praying. There are some GREAT students at Fisher More College.

As one who loves and prays the Latin Mass, please don’t curse or blame Bishop Olson for this one. He is a new bishop who inherited a TOUGH pastoral problem. Pray for him. And if you love the Latin Mass, don’t be so quick to judge the bishops or cite canon law. Sometimes there are things behind the scenes that you don’t know.

1 Cor 11:1-2 If I speak with the tongues of men, and of angels, and have not charity, I am become as sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal.

*Regarding Summorum Pontificum in this situation. It doesn’t apply here since the college chapel does not have a priest requesting to say the Latin Mass and the chapel therefore falls under the direct pastoral control of the bishop. It’s the case of a layman (Michael King) asking for it. Those accusing Bishop Olson of breaking canon law or despising Summorum Pontificum should be more careful. Moreover, be assured that Bishop Olson supports the FSSP in his diocese and has nothing against the Extraordinary Form.

BTW, I'm just trying to push info out on this issue...I do not pretend to have first-hand info

31 posted on 03/04/2014 10:15:20 AM PST by markomalley (Nothing emboldens the wicked so greatly as the lack of courage on the part of the good -- Leo XIII)
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To: markomalley

Just finished reading this on FB, cannot say I am surprised since Dr TM would not leave without good reason. I was hoping that he would speak out.


32 posted on 03/04/2014 10:24:53 AM PST by pbear8 (the Lord is my light and my salvation)
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To: markomalley

comment at:

http://wdtprs.com/blog/2014/03/fr-zs-first-reaction-to-bp-olson-banning-extraordinary-form-at-fort-worths-fisher-more-college/
“” lindarobinson says:
3 March 2014 at 3:01 pm
Dear Father et al,

Some have suggested that this was a hasty action on the part of a new bishop. In fact, the episcopacy in Ft. Worth had been vacant for quite a while (more than a year, I believe) and the apostolic administrator had been quietly accumulating a dossier on Fisher More and Michael King. I was myself an employee of the college until I could remain no longer on grounds of conscience. My friends who remained employed there have given me a lot of information over the eight months since I resigned and so I have a good idea concerning the information that is in the dossier; it’s not pretty stuff. In fact, rather than being shocked at the stern tone of the letter, I congratulate the bishop on his gentlemanly restraint.

Also, I find it amusing that so many are citing Canon Law on SP; does anyone really suppose that Bishop Olson has no canon lawyers of his own? I’m sure he knew that liturgical ideologues would crucify him in the blogsphere once the fact of his disciplinary action was public; isn’t it quite likely that he consulted with his own canonists before he took action? Thank God he drew courage from the graces of his office and did the right thing.

Those who love the EF should understand that the EF is being used, as were good priests and people, for bad ends.

Many, many, good Catholics have been devastated by Fisher More College — good Catholics who love the EF. They have all borne their crosses in silence, trying to avoid scandal. Whoever sent the Bishop’s letter to Rorate Caeli unleashed a sickening firestorm of slander and hysteria against Bishop Olson and the people who have been quiet are now in a position of having to speak out lest they become an accessory to sin. Catholic World Report is preparing an in depth report as we speak; I urge everyone to wait for the article and give Bishop Olson the benefit of any doubt, both now and after the article is made public.

Linda Robinson””


33 posted on 03/04/2014 11:27:31 AM PST by iowamark (I must study politics and war that my sons may have liberty to study mathematics and philosophy)
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To: markomalley

I am especially grateful for Dr. Marshall coming forward to lay context to the sad conditions unfolding at FMC. His experience based on the facts as he saw them has “wised me up”, because certainly I am one who has become wounded by the never ending dismissal of Summorum Pontificum in the US; the endless waiting for bishops and priests to comply with it, and the marginalizing of anyone who longs for the Extraordinary Form to be restored to its rightful place within the context of Vatican II. I really appreciate your post. Thx, Rita


34 posted on 03/04/2014 11:35:55 AM PST by RitaOK ( VIVA CHRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming.)
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To: Salvation
Father Gruner is undoubtedly among the top 0.0001% in qualification to celebrate the Tridentine Mass.

Our diocese Latin Mass priest brings Fr. Gruner's literature to Mass and I look forward to seeing it.

Amazing that the mainstream church holds certain unsuspended but unCatholic American bishops in higher esteem.

35 posted on 03/04/2014 11:40:21 AM PST by steve86 (Some things aren't really true but you wouldn't be half surprised if they were.)
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To: steve86

I find it hard to believe that Jesus keeps a little book to look up who has “jurisdiction” and who doesn’t.


36 posted on 03/04/2014 11:47:57 AM PST by steve86 (Some things aren't really true but you wouldn't be half surprised if they were.)
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To: markomalley; All
“It is what it is”—Fort Worth Diocese Clarifies Bishop Olson’s Ban on Traditional Latin Mass at Fisher More College"

http://www.remnantnewspaper.com/web/index.php/articles/item/323-it-is-what-it-is-fort-worth-diocese-clarifies-bishop-olson-s-ban-on-traditional-latin-mass-at-fisher-more-college

37 posted on 03/04/2014 11:57:35 AM PST by BlatherNaut
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To: markomalley
FMC hosted a public repudiation of Vatican 2 and the Ordinary Form of the Mass

The more I read about FMC and Michael King the more I am impressed by them.

38 posted on 03/04/2014 12:22:25 PM PST by steve86 (Some things aren't really true but you wouldn't be half surprised if they were.)
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To: markomalley
"First Things First: It's not about specific persons, it's about the principle - and the grave precedent"

"...Then, and most importantly, the whole coetus has to be heard - otherwise, this can be a cause for the suppression of a Mass at any time and in ANY place, including yours (yes, pay attention, including yours), if you go regularly to a Traditional Mass. That is, just one or a couple of individuals can cause the end of the Mass for any group - and I am sure you can see the grave danger in this, right? No group of Catholics must live under this kind of terror, the sword of Damocles hanging over their heads because there might be "bad apples" in the group, and always in fear of an immediate suppression of their Mass. What is the Church, a totalitarian state in which the faithful live under permanent terror of a true or false accusation that can bring the shutdown of their Mass at any moment for allegations against individual members of the whole coetus? Is it only the very minoritarian faithful attached to the Extraordinary Form who must live under this regime of liturgical terror? There is no Ordinary Form Mass shutdown for the many, many errors, heresies, schismatic notions, grave liturgical abuses being spread out openly in many regular parish churches, and university campuses and chapels? No, there are rightful procedures in Canon Law to identify apostates, schismatics, heretics, whatever may be the rite, form or usage they adhere to, providing them with the right to be heard, to defend themselves and their views, and to repent. And, even if individuals are rightfully convicted, the innocent members of the coetus must be spared.

No, we cannot remain silent because we must breathe. We will not allow ourselves to be suffocated after Summorum Pontificum by dangerous precedents. Once sacred, always sacred, said Benedict - and always free.

_________________________________ Update. After posting, we received the following sad e-mail message from an old reader of ours in a region of the world we cannot make public at the moment: "Subject: The trickling down effect is also happening here. A traditional mass in X [Rorate: name of region redacted] has also been banned regardless of the motu proprio. At this moment we cannot give details because we are trying to solve the problem with the authorities. We have decided not to go public with the details yet and I ask you to please keep it that way but I will keep you informed and will give you all the facts as things unfold, especially if our efforts are unsuccessful."

http://rorate-caeli.blogspot.com/2014/03/first-things-first-its-not-about.html

39 posted on 03/04/2014 1:26:11 PM PST by BlatherNaut
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To: BlatherNaut

It’s only just begun.....


40 posted on 03/04/2014 3:13:50 PM PST by piusv
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