The Thousand Year Reign of Christ on Earth: Is it Biblical?

Mar 14, 2014 | PhilipFreneau

[CynicalBear]

Some don’t think God is capable of following through on His promises. Carnal minds don’t understand things of the Spirit.

[PhilipFreneau]

>>>Even in the verses you try to cite to support your thesis, it says the heavenly Jerusalem is descending out of heaven!<<<

Where does new Jerusalem descend to, here?

"But in the last days it shall come to pass, that the mountain of the house of the Lord shall be established in the top of the mountains, and it shall be exalted above the hills; and people shall flow unto it. And many nations shall come, and say, Come, and let us go up to the mountain of the Lord, and to the house of the God of Jacob; and he will teach us of his ways, and we will walk in his paths: for the law shall go forth of Zion, and the word of the Lord from Jerusalem." (Mic 4:1-2 KJV)

Or here:

"And he carried me away in the spirit to a great and high mountain, and shewed me that great city, the holy Jerusalem, descending out of heaven from God," (Rev 21:10 KJV)

In either case, that is going to be one tough climb, if it is a physical mountain in the top of the mountains. But it clearly is a spiritual mountain named mount Sion:

"But ye are come unto mount Sion, and unto the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to an innumerable company of angels, To the general assembly and church of the firstborn, which are written in heaven, and to God the Judge of all, and to the spirits of just men made perfect, And to Jesus the mediator of the new covenant…." (Heb 12:22-24 KJV)

Philip

[PhilipFreneau]

>>>I don’t need to explain it. It is prophesied, so it will come to pass.<<<

That can only mean you don’t know how to explain it. Welcome to the club.

Philip

[Boogieman]

“Where does new Jerusalem descend to, here?”

Well, in the verse that speaks of it, it says that it is descending from heaven, so obviously it CANNOT be descending to heaven as well. It must be descending somewhere else, so your arguments about a “spiritual mountain” are just silly.

[PhilipFreneau]

>>>Well, in the verse that speaks of it, it says that it is descending from heaven, so obviously it CANNOT be descending to heaven as well. It must be descending somewhere else, so your arguments about a “spiritual mountain” are just silly.<<<

John was not "in the spirit" when he saw the city descending? I must have misread the verse. I will post it again:

"And he carried me away in the spirit to a great and high mountain, and shewed me that great city, the holy Jerusalem, descending out of heaven from God," (Rev 21:10 KJV)

I was correct, after all. John was in the spirit, at or near a great and high mountain, when he saw the holy Jerusalem descend. Sounds like a spiritual city and mountain to me. The description of the mountain as "great and high" certainly excludes those little hills (the ones they pretend are mountains) in the physical land of Israel.

LOL!

Philip

[Boogieman]

So you continue to insist, even though John states clearly the holy Jerusalem is descending OUT of heaven, that it is actually descending IN to heaven?

[PhilipFreneau]

>>>So you continue to insist, even though John states clearly the holy Jerusalem is descending OUT of heaven, that it is actually descending IN to heaven?<<<

The way I understand it, New Jerusalem is the Church. It is spiritual and in heaven (like a headquarters, if you will;) but if you are a Christian, it also exists within you:

"And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God." (Rev 21:3 KJV)

One thing for certain: if it was literal, and it did descend down from heaven to the earth, it would look something like this in size:

Philip