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Remember when young people used to date? Whatever happened to that?
Archdiocese of Washington ^ | 3/16/2014 | Msgr. Charles Pope

Posted on 03/17/2014 2:43:57 AM PDT by markomalley

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To: markomalley

And actually, “dating” was a step down from going out with a chaperone, or meeting in the parlor. Yes, it was a better way, especially when hormones have the upper hand.

So far my girls have stuck to dating. Another benefit of dating is that breakups are less painful.

I wish I had followed that approach in my teen years, but dating was passe even in the 70s.


21 posted on 03/17/2014 4:58:18 AM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: Rodamala

what is that picture on your page


22 posted on 03/17/2014 5:00:35 AM PDT by yldstrk ( My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: Rodamala

Hmmm...maybe too much of a good thing for the ladies?


23 posted on 03/17/2014 5:13:19 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas

I so agree! Supervised group events and outings are another good venue. Really, the automobile may be as much to blame as the pill. Modern communications will probably never be reeled back in again, but in-person supervision in youth should be ramped way up, IMO.


24 posted on 03/17/2014 5:15:57 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: sitetest

Yes, the young men in my family have all been that way on campus too! They are in the minority and I think it is a combination of having less-roving genes and being raised under the moral example of men who likewise have less cad in them.

The holding out for Catholic marriage is probably less common, and most such marriage-material college men seem to end up in exclusive relationships with the very lucky minority of women on campus who manage to attract them. The majority of women are left scrambling in and too often falling prey to the modern hookup culture that especially favors men when both gay men and the exclusive-dater men are taken out of the equation.

Sigh.


25 posted on 03/17/2014 5:21:00 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: sitetest
My experience is the opposite of yours. I have two nice Catholic sons, ages 23 and 18. Neither one has dated much.

The older one's dating experiences have mostly been really bad (sometimes downright strange, like the girl who invited him home to meet her parents, then treated him like a pariah from the moment she picked him up at the airport ?!?), and I think he really doesn't have much enthusiasm left for the dating process.

The other one is a freshman bball player at a small Catholic college. Sweet boy, smart, wants to be a doctor. He doesn't talk about dating much, but if there were someone very special in his life, we'd know about it.

It's sad. This generation seems to have a real problem forming real relationships -- girls just as much as boys.

26 posted on 03/17/2014 5:21:58 AM PDT by Campion ("Social justice" begins in the womb)
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To: MayflowerMadam

Why so she can spend a few years with him and then change her mind and get half his money for the next 20 years.


27 posted on 03/17/2014 5:42:00 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: xzins

This bible says it is better to stay single if possible.


28 posted on 03/17/2014 5:42:44 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: knarf

Parents stopped parenting and became the kids’ friends instead.


A lot to be said om that.


29 posted on 03/17/2014 5:44:11 AM PDT by ravenwolf
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To: markomalley

A couple of thoughts, first, you need a job to finance a date. Second why pay for a meal when what you want is given away for free. Kids don’t relate face to face much anymore. If you aren’t sexually immoral, a young person is likely to be put at severe temptation when alone with a typical person without such scruples.


30 posted on 03/17/2014 5:46:09 AM PDT by dangerdoc (I don't think you should be forced to make the same decision I did even if I know I'm right.)
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To: Campion

I have two sons, 21 & 16. They don’t date either. The girls seem to be either really sexually aggressive or don’t value men.

This includes church girls. Those that aren’t super aggressive are apparently dating Jesus. This is a southern baptist but even there the feminazi’s have had their effect.


31 posted on 03/17/2014 5:47:13 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: ravenwolf; knarf

Parenting is important of course. Parents have been slacking for years though and not just this generation. ‘Parents’ have also allowed the destruction of our culture and morals.


32 posted on 03/17/2014 5:50:21 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: outofsalt
The feminist movement is what happened.

Not placing all the blame on women, but the 20-30ish women I see are repulsively self centered with grating personalities.
33 posted on 03/17/2014 5:54:36 AM PDT by Vision (Living in beauty)
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To: sitetest
Your son is part of a bygone era where the male is expected to be kind, but firm; flexible but principled. It's funny that most adult men talking about dating emphasize the guy asking permission for everything, always bending to what she wants, and emphasize equality in decisions. Then you look at their miserable marriages where they wonder why their wives aren't attracted to them and nagging them all the time. Heaven forbid they stand up for themselves and show leadership and backbone. that might make her mad!

If they ever stuck their heads out of the sand, they would realize that women want men to take initiative, be firm in their principles(even if it is not to their advantage), make the hard decisions(as long as they get strong input), and take full responsibility for such decisions.

It's like the generation is so brainwashed by what sounds nice they forgot core biological differences in needs. It doesn't matter how nice a guy is if he's weak. If he can't stand up to her, he can't stand up to anyone who threatens the family. I admit I can't sit on too much of a high horse though. It took me almost thirty years to deprogram myself from the indoctrination I received from well meaning fools.
34 posted on 03/17/2014 6:00:10 AM PDT by DarkSavant
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To: driftdiver
Sounds familiar. My older boy said that many of the women at the small Catholic college from which he graduated had psych issues -- they were "cutters" or had eating disorders, etc. -- and were sent there in hopes that the religious environment would "fix" them.

Get this -- my son's best friend at college -- sweet guy, kind & gentle, *rich* family, and an athlete good enough to come within sniffing distance of the national championship in his sport -- he couldn't get a date either! Women were even nasty about turning him down. What gives??

35 posted on 03/17/2014 6:05:05 AM PDT by Campion ("Social justice" begins in the womb)
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To: Campion
Dear Campion,

Well, it takes two to tango. So, no matter how ready your son might be, he does need a worthwhile counterpart.

All I can say is, don't give up! Keep looking for and asking out young ladies who appear eligible! Enjoy the company of those who are nice but not quite right, and gather up as good story-telling the material the ones who are less enjoyable!

My son had first dates with some considerable number of young ladies his freshman year. But I don't recall ever hearing about a second date with any of them. He threw a lot of fish back into the sea. Perhaps he benefited from uniformly low expectations. He had a nice enough time with some of them, but didn't expect much, and though a few of the ladies seemed to welcome a second date, he wasn't sufficiently motivated to follow through with any of them.

But, since everyone knew the rules upfront, since everyone knew he/she would be sleeping alone that night after the date, that there was no chance of anything beyond an invitation for a second date, there was no pressure, and my son enjoyed a lot of these dates, even though they ultimately went nowhere. Even, I think, with the goofier young ladies.

I think he also benefits being at a large, secular college in a substantial metropolitan area with a lot of large (and smaller) colleges. Ironically, he has dated few, if any, Catholic girls. He reports to me that most of them are pretty scary.

“This generation seems to have a real problem forming real relationships — girls just as much as boys.”

I agree. My son benefits from having little fear of rejection, and from having little regard for other folks’ social conventions.


sitetest

36 posted on 03/17/2014 6:08:10 AM PDT by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: xzins

“Because the bible says, regarding those who are the object of our passion, “it is better to marry.””

Just “better”? Not the ringing endorsement I would have expected.


37 posted on 03/17/2014 6:09:47 AM PDT by Brooklyn Attitude (Things are only going to get worse.)
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To: xzins

“Because the bible says, regarding those who are the object of our passion, ‘it is better to marry.’”

So true. That’s why you do the best you can to make sure the the “object of your passion” is a decent person from the get-go. Then marry. Sometimes that’s not possible to find all necessary information, but you do your best.


38 posted on 03/17/2014 6:12:14 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam
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To: Brooklyn Attitude

The bible also advocates the “best” being full commitment to a life in service to Christ. So marrying becomes the “better” rather than the best.


39 posted on 03/17/2014 6:13:43 AM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: knarf

BINGO!!!


40 posted on 03/17/2014 6:15:31 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion.....the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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