Skip to comments.Hate and How to Overcome It: How Should We Respond to the Tragic Death of Fred Phelps?
Posted on 03/20/2014 8:07:33 PM PDT by Former Fetus
Death is always a tragedy. Hate makes it more so.
Today, a man known for hate died. CNN concluded that his infamy was worth a breaking news alert.
But how do we respond? How does this breaking news relate to the gospel's good news?
I've had some run-ins with Westboro, though I don't like to use the words "Baptist" and "Church" when referring to it. (My apologies to the city of Westboro, but your sacrifice is appreciated to rescue the words "Baptist" and "Church.")
I actually have a reminder of the Phelps family that I see every day. If you visit my office, you'd see a nameplate. They called me a "Lying Whore, False Prophet" for believing the crazy idea that God loves peopleeven sinners. As a result, one of my enterprising team members (Lizette Beard) made a nameplate. Every day I can ponder about Fred Phelpsand how he turned the love of God into hate.
The Phelps family (a better description than a "Baptist church," though even that is filled with tragic irony as they self destruct), protested at my former church.
You can read how we responded here and part of that answer may be helpful here.
We were determined to show and share the love of Jesus in the midst of their distortion of the gospel, explaining:
Our answer to offensive signs was to show and share the love of Christ with anyone in need. Whether speaking to the protestors, counter protestors, or the media, we were prepared to speak about what God is doing in our community... The last thing we have time to do is shut down because five people show up with offensive signs.
(Excerpt) Read more at christianitytoday.com ...
I pray that he found God before he passed and I move on.
Fred Phelps, pal of Al Gore.
I feel the same way about him as I do people who had much to give, but wasted it on self destructiveness and self hate. They had their chance at so much and now decided to end up as what they are now remembered for. Right now, whatever chance they have for redemption is lost.
I’d say Fred, I hope you are not lost to G-d, and I hope you are soon forgotten on Earth. May you rest in peace and may the humanity rest more peacefully without you.
you will be long gone and soon forgotten.
Why is his death tragic? He was 84; it was his time. What he did with his life was tragic.
I hope by now he’s found out that God does not, in fact, hate fags.
Nobodys death should be celebrated, not even a person as vile as Fred Phelps. That which is Life and gives life, whatever you name choose to use, chose to give the world Fred Phelps, for some reason, one which I admit I dont understand and Im sure most people dont.
Nevertheless, he was a human being with a family and they are (mostly) grieving. As hateful a lot as the Westboro group is, rejoicing at anyones death is unseemly and inhuman.
Phelps and his family are false flags acting to demonize Christians. The Soviets created false flags all too often. See the Verona papers
I’m sure they have some Swiss bank account being financed by Leftists.
In the case of Fred, point out at every opportunity that he was a typical Democrat with typical Democrat views. Thanks Former Fetus.
Does God hate demons?
Maybe we should return the favor and protest at his funeral.
Rejoicing in the death of someone who may have fallen short of Heaven does not come from God.
Anyone rejoicing needs to think long and hard about where that “joy” is actually coming from.
Prayers for the repose of his soul, for those who loved him, and for the conversion of non-believers.
Yes and I pray that no-one goes and protests at his funeral even though they probably deserve it. Mercy and forgiveness takes the higher road!
Fred Phelps was a Leftist. He was an agent provocateur and a useful idiot.
Prov. 24:20... “For there shall be no reward to the evil man; the candle of the wicked shall be put out.”
Uh-oh, it’s Pollyanna at the helm tonight, I see.
I totally agree. It was intentional evil acts for front page news only, what he was doing. Nothing Christian about his actions.
It was all to discredit Christianity in America. (MSM is all about controlling proper perceptions of the masses). The “Kill God” Postmodernists/Leftists have been demonizing Christianity, since the Scopes Trial to undermine the Bible and silence Christians and relegate them into the closet, as they flip Good and Evil with conditioning our children with moral relativism and evolution, flipping Vice and Virtue.
True Christians are rational and too hard to enslave and would never ever dishonor the dead or pretend to be God and “judge” the souls.
Fred Phelps and the Phelps family were Democrat Lawyers, working as agent provacateurs for either the Homosexual lobby or the Democrat Party.
I'd go with inevitable.
“What he did with his life was tragic.”
That is why his death was tragic. He could have been remembered for so much more.
Are you kidding? The Westboro whores are so desperate for attention that if nobody protests his funeral, they’ll do it themselves.
He was such an asset to the “gay rights” cause that I sometimes wonder if he was on their payroll.
That is a tough question, but considering the agony, torture and misery they will endure, I do not know. As I said, it is a tough question, even if it is a rhetorical question.
Praise God, from whom all blessings flow;
Praise him, all creatures here below;
Praise him above, ye heavenly host;
Praise Father, Son, and Holy Ghost. Amen.
Haha that’s funny!
He was an attention ho, pure and simple. Why give him in death what he didn’t deserve in life? Let apathetic ignominy be his earthly fate.
From my reading of the Christian Bible, hell is at best a permanent separation from God in some profound and deeply tragic way--but necessary in regard to the eternal choice of the beings there to reject a relationship with God. At worse it is a place of intentional eternal vindictive torture. I tend to the first one in both my sensibilities and my reading of scripture. I will not deny that there is some frightful language in the Book of Revelation about an eternal lake of fire, but there seem to me more and plainer less vision-like occasions in scripture where the final state of the dammed is referred to simply as death, eternal destruction, and being the alternative to eternal life--which are not very consistent with a state of eternal temporal awareness in which one is tortured. Jesus seemed to describe it most often as being cast out into darkness where there is weeping and gnashing of teeth. Regret. Missing out. Shut out. But the only time he seemed to describe it as a place where some physical torment occurred was in the parable of the rich man in a parable...with a tongue that burned who wanted to warn his friends. I am dubious that the point of this parable was to teach the doctrine of hell, its punch line was that if the rich man's brothers would not be convinced by Moses and the prophets, then neither would they be convinced by someone returning from the dead.
Thus with my reading of the doctrine of hell, I find it easier to accept that God would make creatures of free will including those He knew would go bad, and that although He regrets deeply their choices which will lead them into separation from Him, still for whatever reason He thought it good to at least give them a shot at life and existance.
Rejoicing at the death of evil men is very human.
Isn’t every death *tragic*?
Or if not, then why is his?
What makes his more tragic than someone else’s?
How ‘bout we just ignore it?
I’m not God and therefor not wise enough to “love unconditionally”.
I hope he burns in hell...
I wonder if Al will attend the funeral.
Of course he was. The Left could point to Westboro and Phelps and loudly proclaim “See how evil those religious nuts are? Sexist-Racist-homophobe!”
It provided them with justification for their hate. As lawyers, the Phelps clan are civil-rights ambulance chasers. As a church, they’re false-front leftists, as stated in the Venona papers.
dude was a twisted evil bassturd. Used to beat wife and kids silly.
I agree with you. And if he did not find The Lord then it was his choice and he must deal with it.
All I am going to say is that I hope he repented before he had passed.
His descendants might view that as some form of victory...claiming that even in death he was a man to be reckoned with...
let our Ignoring him be our eulogy
Other than saying God hated “fags” he told the truth about homosexuality and could have cared less what people thought about him, especially left-wing homo-loving democrats. Of course God hates the sin not the sinner. Protesting at funeral was stupid, but he was right about homosexuality and all the evils that come with it.
What did he do that was so bad? A lot of people say a lot of things.
Protesting at soldiers funerals and disrupting family unity was practiced by that Westboro Baptist Church. However, the less attention this nutcase receives the better, forget him and let him die from history, he deserves no attention.
In fact, we would have less focus on horrific crime if the serial and mass murderers were kept out of the news and no attention paid to them, and the cameras kept out of the courtroom....no 15 minutes of fame. Total anonymous coverage would take the glamour out of it. That may not keep them from being the sociopaths they are, but it certainly would make them suffer in silence.
Many of the terrorists are after maximum coverage...send them to Gitmo without any notoriety at all...everything kept secret and cover their heads with a bag so no pictures are taken, that will prevent some of their popularity. When giving the NEWS about an event give the coverage to the victims and no fame to the terrorist or criminal.
“Does God Hate Demons”
God is not capable of hate, for God is love. However, demons are fallen Angels whom God created. The followers of Lucifer were cast down from heaven when Lucifer was banned from heaven for his ‘desire to be God’ and be worshipped....sound familiar?
Anyway, as we destroy the terrorists in war/execution, and evil people through capital punishment, those demons leave their bodies and seek refuge in other haters, thereby increasing our problem.
None of what is happening is God’s fault, because all have free will, including Angels...to choose to serve God or not, it’s one of the universal laws. The consequences of allowing choice is simple, since Lucifer (Satan, Devil,Belzebulb or whatever one wants to call him)can never repent and be saved, as he saw heaven and was the most powerful Angel of Worship, the evil in him wants to take as many to hell with him as he can.
No, God does not hate demons, only their behavior.
I make the effort to love unconditionally every moment, every day.
Protesting solders funerals that was what was wrong.