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Vatican’s secret, and deadly, project to preserve its saints
New York Post ^ | 03/22/2014 | Theresa Potenza

Posted on 03/23/2014 7:49:27 PM PDT by Alex Murphy

The Catholic belief of “incorruptibility” holds that if a body does not decay after death, the person is holy. It takes two miracles to become a saint; the Church once allowed a perfect corpse to count as one.

Incorruptibility is no longer a miracle, however, perhaps because so many tried to help God along. Oil and herbs were inserted into the muscle cavities of some older popes, for instance.

When Pope Pius XII died in 1958, the Vatican used a wrapping technique similar to what was believed to have been applied to Jesus. It failed miserably. Only days after his death, his nose fell off, and a Swiss Guard fainted due to the stench while he was guarding the body.

[SNIP]

In 2000, Pope John Paul II had [Pope John XXIII] exhumed to be declared “blessed,” part of the progression to sainthood. The airtight coffin had left him virtually undisturbed, and the embalming team wanted to keep it that way.

After the pope’s internal organs were removed and analyzed, the body was placed in a stainless-steel tub for several weeks in a solution of formalin and alcohol, then neutralized for several weeks.

His body then undertook a series of baths in assorted solutions for months at a time, including various mixtures of ethanol, methanol, phenol, camphor, nitrobenzene, turpentine and benzoic acid.

Finally the body was bandaged in linen cloths saturated with a solution of mercury bichloride and ethanol. Then a second team ensconced him with wax on his face and hands. The entire process took about a year.

The Church decided not to rebury Pope John XXIII, instead putting him on display for pilgrims. More than 25,000 people visit St. Peter’s Basilica every day, and many faithful still believe the incorrupt state of his body is a miracle.

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TOPICS: Catholic; History; Ministry/Outreach; Worship
KEYWORDS: catholic; incorruptibility; moacb; relics
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To: redleghunter

it was...


101 posted on 03/26/2014 3:37:13 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: metmom
The church is creating and engaging and perpetuating deceit.

Easter movies...
(Who gets MORE screen time?)

Son of God
‎2hr 18min‎‎

MARY OF NAZARETH
‎2hr 33min‎‎

102 posted on 03/26/2014 3:47:43 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: metmom
 

 
 
http://www.maryfilm.com/about

103 posted on 03/26/2014 3:49:43 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie
???

It's an old, expected friend come calling.

104 posted on 03/26/2014 4:23:35 AM PDT by Alex Murphy ("the defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades")
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To: Alex Murphy

I’m still at a loss...


105 posted on 03/26/2014 4:36:21 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

The evidence for Mary’s sinlessness is Scripture and tradition.

The evidence for this article is ???????


106 posted on 03/26/2014 6:33:57 AM PDT by amihow
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To: GGpaX4DumpedTea; Alex Murphy; Elsie; metmom; boatbums; redleghunter
This is all too gross for words...

Its a grave situation:

Skull Chapel, Czermna, Poland

Built in 1776, the Skull Chapel in Czermna, Poland, was the bizarre brainchild of parish priest Wacław Tomaszek, who saw to it that the bones of 3,000 people came to line the walls of the small baroque church.

Skull-Chapel-Czermna-Poland-01image source

Beneath its floor is a mass grave containing the remains of another 21,000 people who died during the Thirty Years’ War (1618–1648), or due to cholera and hunger. While those exhumed to create the grizzly interior decorations were never consulted during life, the bones of those that created the sinister sideshow also rest in the Skull Chapel, in a last macabre nod to their “sanctuary of silence”.

More: http://www.worldsbiggests.com/2013/03/11-most-bizarre-european-ossuaries.html

http://www.theworldisabook.com/17882/czech-republic-sedlec-ossuary-bone-church-with-kids/

107 posted on 03/26/2014 7:58:15 AM PDT by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: Salvation

Thanks for the reference. What are your views of dismembering saints and distributing their body parts to various churches?


108 posted on 03/26/2014 9:16:57 AM PDT by redleghunter (But let your word 'yes be 'yes,' and your 'no be 'no.' Anything more than this is from the evil one.)
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To: Alex Murphy
Where did you get that photo:) Is there a person under the bed wrap there?


109 posted on 03/26/2014 9:19:24 AM PDT by redleghunter (But let your word 'yes be 'yes,' and your 'no be 'no.' Anything more than this is from the evil one.)
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To: daniel1212

The Catholic obsession with the dead is beyond twisted.


110 posted on 03/26/2014 9:22:32 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith....)
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To: Campion; Alex Murphy
At some point, idiocy like this in the press passes beyond the stage of sweetly innocent ignorance into an organized, deliberate effort to paint Catholics as dangerous freaks.

No doubt the pressers are dolts when it comes to religious matters and faith. Was the article inaccurate when it stated the following:

St. Teresa, who died in 1582, is an example of how obsessed earlier Catholics were with relics of the flesh. After her death, a priest cut off her left hand, from which he took a finger, wearing it around his neck for the rest of his life. Followers later removed her heart, right arm, right foot and a piece of jaw to display as relics in various sites.

Is the above historically accurate or nonsense?

111 posted on 03/26/2014 9:25:32 AM PDT by redleghunter (But let your word 'yes be 'yes,' and your 'no be 'no.' Anything more than this is from the evil one.)
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To: ansel12
What about the part about taking body parts, and even wearing them? That seems pretty freaky to Americans.

About as unusual as someone removing a crucifix from rosary beads a dead priest was holding.

112 posted on 03/26/2014 9:42:36 AM PDT by redleghunter (But let your word 'yes be 'yes,' and your 'no be 'no.' Anything more than this is from the evil one.)
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To: Campion; Alex Murphy; daniel1212
BTW, you also learned the lesson the lamestream media wanted you to learn. Congratulations.

Perhaps you can direct me to a credible source on the whereabouts of the foreskin relic as the only one which comes up that is coherent is wikipedia.

Foreskin relics began appearing in Europe during the Middle Ages. The earliest recorded sighting came on December 25, 800, when Charlemagne gave it to Pope Leo III when the latter crowned the former Emperor. Charlemagne claimed that it had been brought to him by an angel while he prayed at the Holy Sepulchre, although a more prosaic report says it was a wedding gift from the Byzantine Empress Irene. Pope Leo III placed it into the Sancta Sanctorum in the Lateran basilica in Rome with other relics.[3] Its authenticity was later considered to be confirmed by a vision of Saint Bridget of Sweden.[4] The foreskin was then looted during the Sack of Rome in 1527. The German soldier who stole it was captured in the village of Calcata, 47 km north of Rome, later the same year. Thrown into prison, he hid the jeweled reliquary in his cell, where it remained until its rediscovery in 1557. Many miracles (freak storms and perfumed fog overwhelming the village) are claimed to have followed.[3] Housed in Calcata, it was venerated from that time onwards, with the Church approving the authenticity by offering a ten-year indulgence to pilgrims.[3] Pilgrims, nuns and monks flocked to the church, and "Calcata [became] a must-see destination on the pilgrimage map." The foreskin was reported stolen by a local priest in 1983.[3]

Foreskin relics

113 posted on 03/26/2014 9:55:30 AM PDT by redleghunter (But let your word 'yes be 'yes,' and your 'no be 'no.' Anything more than this is from the evil one.)
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To: amihow
The evidence for Mary’s sinlessness is Scripture and tradition.

Then you can SHOW it from Scripture; right?

114 posted on 03/26/2014 9:57:06 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: amihow
The evidence for Mary’s sinlessness is Scripture and tradition.

Then you can SHOW it from the EARLIEST time it is found in 'tradition'; Right?

115 posted on 03/26/2014 9:57:57 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Bulwyf

2 Corinthians 5

King James Version (KJV)

1 For we know that if our earthly house of this tabernacle were dissolved, we have a building of God, an house not made with hands, eternal in the heavens.

2 For in this we groan, earnestly desiring to be clothed upon with our house which is from heaven:

3 If so be that being clothed we shall not be found naked.

4 For we that are in this tabernacle do groan, being burdened: not for that we would be unclothed, but clothed upon, that mortality might be swallowed up of life.

5 Now he that hath wrought us for the selfsame thing is God, who also hath given unto us the earnest of the Spirit.

6 Therefore we are always confident, knowing that, whilst we are at home in the body, we are absent from the Lord:


116 posted on 03/26/2014 9:58:45 AM PDT by redleghunter (But let your word 'yes be 'yes,' and your 'no be 'no.' Anything more than this is from the evil one.)
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To: redleghunter

Just when you think you’ve heard it all........


117 posted on 03/26/2014 9:58:50 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith....)
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To: daniel1212
...the Skull Chapel in Czermna, Poland, was the bizarre brainchild of ...
118 posted on 03/26/2014 10:00:13 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: redleghunter

http://www.tv.com/shows/eerie-indiana/forever-ware-50646/


119 posted on 03/26/2014 10:04:29 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: redleghunter

OR?


120 posted on 03/26/2014 10:04:54 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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