Posted on 03/29/2014 3:05:22 AM PDT by markomalley
“The Archbishop of Canterbury has signalled that the Church of England will mount no more resistance to gay marriage among churchgoers.
Gay marriage will be legalised from Saturday with dozens of ceremonies planned around the country for one minute past midnight. This passing of the legislation caused deep rifts within the church.
“I think the church has reacted by fully accepting that it’s the law, and should react on Saturday by continuing to demonstrate in word and action, the love of Christ for every human being.” Justin Welby told the Guardian.
His comments mark a shift in tone, if not substance, from a letter from the bishops last month that attempted to forbid the clergy from marrying same-sex partners, and which led to a furious backlash from supporters. At least seven clergy couples are preparing to marry in defiance of their bishops, though none are known to be planning a public ceremony.
Comment: The capitulation of the Church of England to the onward march of homosexualism marks the point at which it can no longer maintain a claim to be any part of the Church of Jesus Christ. It discloses a new reason – if there were none already – why the Church of England is a heresy, which, from now on, no one can continue to belong to and, at the same time, call himself a faithful Christian.
Yet there is no point in anyone leaving the Church of England unless he were convinced that Jesus Christ, in founding His Church, gave her the gift of infallibility in teaching and believing the truth. Once he forms that judgement, he has to make up his mind whether Christ’s Church is the Roman Catholic or the Eastern Orthodox.”
M Donnelly: Thank you Michael
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Lambeth to C of E: Close your eyes and think of England.
But he doesn’t say that. It looks like he’s saying that a person has two choices.
Hey dude, did he say “mount”?
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Everyone needs to repent and try to change. It's just not our job to make them do it. All we can do is carry the Word and witness to the best of our abilities. How many Christians have actually changed their inner self? We try to do better, but most of us still have most of our original faults and have to go back and repent again and again. We shouldn't foster their lifestyle but we also shouldn't condemn them for it.
I think we get so hung up on the fact that God called the sodomites an abomination that we forget that the wages of ALL sin is death. But for the sacrifice of Jesus on the Cross, we would all be as condemned as the sodomites.
You do not allow Molech in with HIS rules and laws just because you 'love' him.
The C of E ceased being a church of Jesus Christ decades ago.
I never said we should allow Molech and HIS laws to prevail. What are the family rules and laws? Jesus gave us the two Great Commandments, by which the Law is fulfilled. How do you reach those that need saving if you keep them out of the presence of those who claim Christ as Savior. We (mortal humans) don't make the rules and laws - we try, mostly unsuccessfully, to follow them while carrying the message of the Good News.
I've heard members of churches claim that, since they've been saved, they no longer do anything sinful - I think they are deluding themselves and losing out because of it. If you believe you don't commit sins, the wages of which under the Old Covenant are death, on a daily basis, you are deluding yourself - only one Man ever walked the Earth with the ability to go through a sin-free day. The rest of us are redeemed and saved by His Blood and nothing else. In Jeremiah, God told us of the New Covenant to come and He stated that He would forgive us our wickedness and recognize our sins no more. He didn't say we would be forgiven and stop committing sinful acts. Is it our job to judge and condemn others?
It seems that many religious folks seem to think they are somehow elite, much as the Pharisees considered themselves to be and we know how Jesus felt about them.Where do you draw the line and by what authority? Paul understood that to reach sectors of societies, he had to become much like them and, in that guise/costume he could relate to them and they to him. Jonah tried to flee Nineveh because he considered them to be beyond redemption and refused to witness to them because he didn't want them to be saved - God had other plans. How do we ensure we aren't being our own Jonahs?
Please take this in the way it is intended - to foster serious thought/conversation/debate that might help enlighten both of us, and not as any sort of attack at the personal or religious level.
The Church of England was never a church of Jesus Christ.
Then, I guess all of its past adherents are hell bound?
The article is based on accepting queers' marriages and doesn't really address the fact that queers are an abomination to God
I never said Molech's laws should prevail, I said they should not come in.
If you would feel comfortable with two guys in front of you, leaning their heads together as your priest or pastor ministers on a Sunday morning, trying to keep your kids from laughing ... you have no problem with a newly paroled child rapist babysitting your 10 year old daughter.
I'm not very good at discussing what God has already determined
If they are not invincibly ignorant of the fact that salvation comes from Christ through his only Church, the Catholic Church, then they are definitely skating on thin ice.
The Roman church is a cult. There is no salvation through it.
I guess you’re not invincibly ignorant.
**The Church of England will mount no more resistance to gay marriage among churchgoers**
Then the churchgoers will have to mount the resistance and leave the Church of England.
It all comes from being the “established” church.
Separation of church and state isn’t just to protect the state.
- what has the U.K. authorized for homosexuals: marriage or civil partnership?
- will the Church of England officiate homosexual marriages, or only certain priests who wish to defy their bishops?
- what does "mount no more resistance to marriage among churchgoers" by the CofE mean, accepting congregants "married" elsewhere, or officiating themselves?
Everyone is spinning so hard that it is hard to divine what they are saying.
Without any guidance from those better informed, that is my take.
decades ? Why not centuries ? It became the Church of England as a result of the lust of King Henry VIII. The rest is natural decline.
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