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The Church of England will mount no more resistance to gay marriage among churchgoers
Protect the Pope ^ | 3/28/2014 | Michael Petek

Posted on 03/29/2014 3:05:22 AM PDT by markomalley

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To: markomalley

sick


21 posted on 03/29/2014 12:38:42 PM PDT by yldstrk ( My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: markomalley

Lambeth to C of E: Close your eyes and think of England.


22 posted on 03/29/2014 12:48:58 PM PDT by RichInOC (2013-14 Tiber Swim Team)
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To: RichInOC
The wedding night of a Victorian Bride. My family were Chapel rather than Church and we bred like rats.
23 posted on 03/29/2014 12:58:31 PM PDT by Little Bill (EVICT Queen Jean)
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To: scrabblehack

But he doesn’t say that. It looks like he’s saying that a person has two choices.


24 posted on 03/29/2014 1:02:52 PM PDT by piusv
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To: markomalley

Hey dude, did he say “mount”?

heh, heh
heh, heh


25 posted on 03/29/2014 8:52:22 PM PDT by kaehurowing
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To: knarf
Yes, I know, but your words and the words of the article don't seem to suggest sodomites should repent and change but be welcomed without repentence. Not saying that is your stand, but your words sound that way.

Everyone needs to repent and try to change. It's just not our job to make them do it. All we can do is carry the Word and witness to the best of our abilities. How many Christians have actually changed their inner self? We try to do better, but most of us still have most of our original faults and have to go back and repent again and again. We shouldn't foster their lifestyle but we also shouldn't condemn them for it.

I think we get so hung up on the fact that God called the sodomites an abomination that we forget that the wages of ALL sin is death. But for the sacrifice of Jesus on the Cross, we would all be as condemned as the sodomites.

26 posted on 03/30/2014 2:49:43 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: trebb
Thus, you witness to people, offer the way to be saved and if accepted, welcome them into the family .... the family that has rules and laws.

You do not allow Molech in with HIS rules and laws just because you 'love' him.

27 posted on 03/30/2014 2:58:20 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true .. I have no proof .. but they're true.)
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To: markomalley

The C of E ceased being a church of Jesus Christ decades ago.


28 posted on 03/30/2014 5:01:05 AM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: knarf
Thus, you witness to people, offer the way to be saved and if accepted, welcome them into the family .... the family that has rules and laws. You do not allow Molech in with HIS rules and laws just because you 'love' him.

I never said we should allow Molech and HIS laws to prevail. What are the family rules and laws? Jesus gave us the two Great Commandments, by which the Law is fulfilled. How do you reach those that need saving if you keep them out of the presence of those who claim Christ as Savior. We (mortal humans) don't make the rules and laws - we try, mostly unsuccessfully, to follow them while carrying the message of the Good News.

I've heard members of churches claim that, since they've been saved, they no longer do anything sinful - I think they are deluding themselves and losing out because of it. If you believe you don't commit sins, the wages of which under the Old Covenant are death, on a daily basis, you are deluding yourself - only one Man ever walked the Earth with the ability to go through a sin-free day. The rest of us are redeemed and saved by His Blood and nothing else. In Jeremiah, God told us of the New Covenant to come and He stated that He would forgive us our wickedness and recognize our sins no more. He didn't say we would be forgiven and stop committing sinful acts. Is it our job to judge and condemn others?

It seems that many religious folks seem to think they are somehow elite, much as the Pharisees considered themselves to be and we know how Jesus felt about them.Where do you draw the line and by what authority? Paul understood that to reach sectors of societies, he had to become much like them and, in that guise/costume he could relate to them and they to him. Jonah tried to flee Nineveh because he considered them to be beyond redemption and refused to witness to them because he didn't want them to be saved - God had other plans. How do we ensure we aren't being our own Jonahs?

Please take this in the way it is intended - to foster serious thought/conversation/debate that might help enlighten both of us, and not as any sort of attack at the personal or religious level.

29 posted on 03/30/2014 6:40:56 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: fwdude

The Church of England was never a church of Jesus Christ.


30 posted on 03/30/2014 1:43:34 PM PDT by piusv
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To: piusv
The Church of England was never a church of Jesus Christ.

Then, I guess all of its past adherents are hell bound?

31 posted on 03/30/2014 2:02:59 PM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: trebb
Jesus' presence is not in a church ... it should be, but HE is right beside you (or out front knocking)

The article is based on accepting queers' marriages and doesn't really address the fact that queers are an abomination to God

I never said Molech's laws should prevail, I said they should not come in.


If you would feel comfortable with two guys in front of you, leaning their heads together as your priest or pastor ministers on a Sunday morning, trying to keep your kids from laughing ... you have no problem with a newly paroled child rapist babysitting your 10 year old daughter.


I'm not very good at discussing what God has already determined

32 posted on 03/30/2014 2:04:31 PM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true .. I have no proof .. but they're true.)
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To: fwdude

If they are not invincibly ignorant of the fact that salvation comes from Christ through his only Church, the Catholic Church, then they are definitely skating on thin ice.


33 posted on 03/30/2014 2:33:45 PM PDT by piusv
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To: piusv

The Roman church is a cult. There is no salvation through it.


34 posted on 03/30/2014 2:54:09 PM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: fwdude

I guess you’re not invincibly ignorant.


35 posted on 03/30/2014 2:56:42 PM PDT by piusv
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To: markomalley

**The Church of England will mount no more resistance to gay marriage among churchgoers**

Then the churchgoers will have to mount the resistance and leave the Church of England.


36 posted on 03/30/2014 3:04:23 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: markomalley

It all comes from being the “established” church.

Separation of church and state isn’t just to protect the state.


37 posted on 03/31/2014 2:14:28 AM PDT by Salman
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To: markomalley
I have read the article and the comments and remain confused:

- what has the U.K. authorized for homosexuals: marriage or civil partnership?

- will the Church of England officiate homosexual marriages, or only certain priests who wish to defy their bishops?

- what does "mount no more resistance to marriage among churchgoers" by the CofE mean, accepting congregants "married" elsewhere, or officiating themselves?

Everyone is spinning so hard that it is hard to divine what they are saying.

38 posted on 03/31/2014 2:48:04 AM PDT by Praxeologue
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The CofE will not officiate homosexual marriages, but some of their clergy, seven, plan to marry their homosexual lovers elsewhere in defiance of their bishops' wishes. All this stirs up enough controversy for the Grauniad to say that the CofE will not "mount no more resistance to (homosexual) marriage among churchgoers". This statement is deceptive, but suits the paper's objective of stirring up confusion and controversy among practitioners of normal sex.

Without any guidance from those better informed, that is my take.

39 posted on 03/31/2014 3:19:00 AM PDT by Praxeologue
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To: fwdude
The C of E ceased being a church of Jesus Christ decades ago.

decades ? Why not centuries ? It became the Church of England as a result of the lust of King Henry VIII. The rest is natural decline.

40 posted on 03/31/2014 5:53:25 AM PDT by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began)
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