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Did Jesus go to hell between His death and resurrection? (Dispensational Caucus)
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Posted on 04/13/2014 11:16:00 AM PDT by wmfights

Question: "Did Jesus go to hell between His death and resurrection?"

Answer: There is a great deal of confusion in regards to this question. This concept comes primarily from the Apostles' Creed, which states, “He descended into hell.” There are also a few Scriptures which, depending on how they are translated, describe Jesus going to “hell.” In studying this issue, it is important to first understand what the Bible teaches about the realm of the dead.

In the Hebrew Scriptures, the word used to describe the realm of the dead is sheol. It simply means the “place of the dead” or the “place of departed souls/spirits.” The New Testament Greek equivalent of sheol is hades which also refers to “the place of the dead.” Other Scriptures in the New Testament indicate that sheol/hades is a temporary place, where souls are kept as they await the final resurrection and judgment. Revelation 20:11-15 gives a clear distinction between the two. Hell (the lake of fire) is the permanent and final place of judgment for the lost. Hades is a temporary place. So, no, Jesus did not go to hell because hell is a future realm, only put into effect after the Great White Throne Judgment (Revelation 20:11-15).

Sheol/hades is a realm with two divisions (Matthew 11:23, 16:18; Luke 10:15, 16:23; Acts 2:27-31), the abodes of the saved and the lost. The abode of the saved was called “paradise” and “Abraham's bosom.” The abodes of the saved and the lost are separated by a “great chasm” (Luke 16:26). When Jesus ascended to heaven, He took the occupants of paradise (believers) with Him (Ephesians 4:8-10). The lost side of sheol/hades has remained unchanged. All unbelieving dead go there awaiting their final judgment in the future. Did Jesus go to sheol/hades? Yes, according to Ephesians 4:8-10 and 1 Peter 3:18-20.

Some of the confusion has arisen from such passages as Psalm 16:10-11 as translated in the King James Version, “For thou wilt not leave my soul in hell; neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption....Thou wilt show me the path of life.” “Hell” is not a correct translation of this verse. A correct reading would be “the grave” or “sheol.” Jesus said to the thief beside Him, “Today you will be with me in paradise” (Luke 23:43). Jesus’ body was in the tomb; His soul/spirit went to the “paradise” side of sheol/hades. He then removed all the righteous dead from paradise and took them with Him to heaven. Unfortunately, in many translations of the Bible, translators are not consistent, or correct, in how they translate the Hebrew and Greek words for “sheol,” “hades,” and “hell.”

Some have the viewpoint that Jesus went to “hell” or the suffering side of sheol/hades in order to further be punished for our sins. This idea is completely unbiblical. It was the death of Jesus on the cross and His suffering in our place that sufficiently provided for our redemption. It was His shed blood that effected our own cleansing from sin (1 John 1:7-9). As He hung there on the cross, He took the sin burden of the whole human race upon Himself. He became sin for us: “God made him who had no sin to be sin for us, so that in him we might become the righteousness of God” (2 Corinthians 5:21). This imputation of sin helps us understand Christ's struggle in the garden of Gethsemane with the cup of sin which would be poured out upon Him on the cross.

When Jesus cried upon the cross, “Oh, Father, why have you forsaken me?” (Matthew 27:46), it was then that He was separated from the Father because of the sin poured out upon Him. As He gave up His spirit, He said, “Father, into your hands I commit my spirit” (Luke 23:46). His suffering in our place was completed. His soul/spirit went to the paradise side of hades. Jesus did not go to hell. Jesus’ suffering ended the moment He died. The payment for sin was paid. He then awaited the resurrection of His body and His return to glory in His ascension. Did Jesus go to hell? No. Did Jesus go to sheol/hades? Yes.


TOPICS: Charismatic Christian; Evangelical Christian; Theology
KEYWORDS: afterlife; dispensationalism; easter; hades; jesus; paradise; resurrection
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To: ArtDodger
Seem to remember reading something like The Gospel of Barnabus (not the vampire) or such which related the journey of Jesus after death to Hell and back. Was not allowed into the New Testament.

I wouldn't be surprised, but as the article points out there are Scriptural references that point to this explanation.

41 posted on 04/13/2014 1:39:12 PM PDT by wmfights
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To: UCANSEE2

Are you a Dispensationalist?


42 posted on 04/13/2014 1:39:59 PM PDT by wmfights
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To: MayflowerMadam

I believe He was there until the payment for believer’s sin was complete. If He did not then His soul did not suffer the punishment for my sins which is eternal death in hell. No river, no tree of life. Was Jesus the first to go to hell? We have to believe our sin debt is paid.

However, now I am questioning that, He did not have a body. The resurrected will have bodies, but will those going to hell have bodies?

There are souls before the throne asking God how long it will be before the return, so how does that come into play?

The wrath of God against evil nations will be the tribulation, how is the death of Jesus fulfilling the wrath of God against the individual?

God does say in Ezekiel 18 and 33 that may bear upon our judgment day. Weighing our evil against our righteous acts.

As usual, more questions. Always wondering.

As I sat in church this morning I thought the message would be about Palm Sunday so I went to Luke to read about His trip to Jerusalem. The last thing He said (in Luke 19:27) before climbing the hill to enter the city was “But these enemies of mine, who did not want me to reign over them, bring them here and slay them in my presence.” (it was the conclusion of the talent parable) My first thought was why are we not afraid of Jesus? Has the church been overcompensating for the righteous judgment of God the Father that we are afraid to teach that it is Jesus who will be sending those who reject Him to hell? Teaching the Word with the Father and Son as one is the issue. On a side note, today was the first day I heard a pastor say that Jesus returns as a Warrior King. Oohrah. No liberal rules of engagement from Him! Worthy is the Lamb that was slain to receive power and riches and wisdom and might and honor and glory and blessing! So Be It.


43 posted on 04/13/2014 1:41:02 PM PDT by huldah1776
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To: CodeToad
There is Hell for the Son of God?

The article points out the distinction between Hades and Hell and the two parts of Hades.

Jesus went to Paradise and led "captivity captive". IOW he took the Old Testament Saints to Heaven.

44 posted on 04/13/2014 1:42:47 PM PDT by wmfights
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To: dfwgator

Are you a Dispensationalist?


45 posted on 04/13/2014 1:43:59 PM PDT by wmfights
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To: eyedigress

Are you a Dispensationalist?


46 posted on 04/13/2014 1:44:40 PM PDT by wmfights
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To: M Kehoe

Well of course the place we know of as Detroit was not there. But the place where Detroit would be, was there.

Clear? I know...not clear at all!


47 posted on 04/13/2014 1:46:29 PM PDT by Vermont Lt (If you want to keep your dignity, you can keep it. Period........ Just kidding, you can't keep it.)
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To: rjsimmon; Pan_Yan
Paradise was the place of departed spirits. The bosom of Abraham was where the children of Israel went until the Messiah came to claim them. Christ told the thief that he would be with Him in Paradise and that was so, then Jesus cleaned out the Bosom of Abraham and took them with Him.

Nice succinct explanation.

I thought the article was pretty straightforward.

48 posted on 04/13/2014 1:47:38 PM PDT by wmfights
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To: ravenwolf
I believe you are right.

Thank you.

I thought the article did a good job of showing from Scripture why this makes sense. Any future reference to "the gates of Hell" are mute because Jesus already kicked them down.

49 posted on 04/13/2014 1:50:41 PM PDT by wmfights
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To: Vermont Lt

Are you a Dispensationalist?


50 posted on 04/13/2014 1:52:34 PM PDT by wmfights
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To: driftdiver

He was separated from God for those three days.


I am not sure he would have had time to be separated that long.

Hosea 6
1
Come, and let us return unto the LORD: for he hath torn, and he will heal us; he hath smitten, and he will bind us up.

2
After two days will he revive us: in the third day he will raise us up, and we shall live in his sight.

Mat 27
50
Jesus, when he had cried again with a loud voice, yielded up the ghost.

51
And, behold, the veil of the temple was rent in twain from the top to the bottom; and the earth did quake, and the rocks rent;

52
And the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose,

53
And came out of the graves after his resurrection, and went into the holy city, and appeared unto many.

54
Now when the centurion, and they that were with him, watching Jesus, saw the earthquake, and those things that were done, they feared greatly, saying, Truly this was the Son of God.

This was done for a sign but these are the ones referred to in Hosea who were awakened after the second day and arose the third day.


51 posted on 04/13/2014 1:53:20 PM PDT by ravenwolf
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To: wmfights

You could say that without argument from me. God is a personal life between the individual and his Creator.

Jesus is my path to the Creator.

The rest is just rock-n-roll.


52 posted on 04/13/2014 1:55:32 PM PDT by eyedigress ((zOld storm chaser from the west)/ ?s)
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To: wmfights
Good article.

I read a book on the subject about a year ago along the same lines. It made alot of sense and opened my eyes to some of the misnomers about hades/shoul.

53 posted on 04/13/2014 2:02:45 PM PDT by Carbonsteel
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To: driftdiver; Pan_Yan
The thief was with God that day, wasn’t he?

Are you telling Pan_Yan that Jesus played a word trick on that particular thief?
54 posted on 04/13/2014 2:07:00 PM PDT by Resettozero
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To: wmfights

Jesus’ spirit went to God (Who is spirit), His body went to the grave, and His soul went to Abraham’s bosom/Paradise/Sheol. When He resurrected, His soul, body, and spirit were rejoined, and He ascended to Heaven as our Eternal High Priest to place His Blood before The God on the Heavenly Mercy Seat as the Everlasting Incorruptible Sacrifice. He then came back to earth and walked with His disciples for 40 days, before re-ascending.


55 posted on 04/13/2014 2:33:42 PM PDT by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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To: wmfights

That’s pretty much what my (former) pastor said when we were going through Romans as well. Thanks for the sermon and God Bless! Happy Resurrection day!!


56 posted on 04/13/2014 2:41:42 PM PDT by JSDude1 (Defeat Hagan, elect a Constutional Conservative: Dr. Greg Brannon!)
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To: wmfights

I thought the article did a good job of showing from Scripture why this makes sense.


Yes, it does make good sense, the verses below show that Jesus had work to do that would have him going to paradise, not hell.

Romans ch 8
28
And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose.

29
For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.

30
Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified.

Paul is talking about people who have already been resurrected (glorified )

These are the same ones referred to in Hosea 6:2 and Mat 27:51,53


57 posted on 04/13/2014 2:42:58 PM PDT by ravenwolf
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To: JSDude1
Thanks, back at ya.

It will be wonderful to hear what the Old Testament Saints were thinking when Jesus Christ kicked down those gates when we get to heaven.

58 posted on 04/13/2014 3:02:34 PM PDT by wmfights
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To: wmfights

The Apostle’s Creed?


59 posted on 04/13/2014 3:16:46 PM PDT by SkyDancer (I Believe In The Law Until It Intereferes With Justice. And Pay Your Liberty Tax Citizen.)
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To: SkyDancer

I don’t know what you’re alluding to.


60 posted on 04/13/2014 3:18:25 PM PDT by wmfights
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