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Pope emphasizes 'indissolubility of Christian matrimony' (Ecumenical)
Catholic News Agency ^ | 04/25/2104 | n/a

Posted on 04/25/2014 2:27:25 PM PDT by Pyro7480

Pope Francis on April 25 stressed the need for bishops and priests to give a “consistent witness” to Christian moral teaching, including the lifelong nature of Christian marriage, and to teach these truths “with great compassion.”

“The holiness and indissolubility of Christian matrimony, often disintegrating under tremendous pressure from the secular world, must be deepened by clear doctrine and supported by the witness of committed married couples,” Pope Francis said.

“Christian matrimony is a lifelong covenant of love between one man and one woman; it entails real sacrifices in order to turn away from illusory notions of sexual freedom and in order to foster conjugal fidelity.”

The Pope’s remarks came in a meeting with bishops from South Africa, Zimbabwe and Swaziland...Vatican Radio reports....

Pope Francis’ comments follow media reports about the contents of a recent phone call he allegedly made to a remarried divorced woman in Argentina. The woman claimed that the Pope told her she could receive Holy Communion.

Catholic teaching recognizes the nature of matrimony as indissoluble, so a new marriage can only be contracted if the first union was found to be invalid. Those who have entered a new union without a recognition of annulment may not be admitted to Communion.

On April 24, Vatican spokesman Father Federico Lombardi said that the media coverage of the woman cannot be confirmed as reliable and is “a source of misunderstanding and confusion.”

In his comments to the southern African bishops, Pope Francis also noted the damage caused by abortion and an attitude of disrespect for life.

“Abortion compounds the grief of many women who now carry with them deep physical and spiritual wounds after succumbing to the pressures of a secular culture which devalues God’s gift of sexuality and the right to life of the unborn,” he said.

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TOPICS: Catholic; Current Events; Religion & Culture; Theology
KEYWORDS: catholic; christian; divorcecommunion; marriage
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To: babygene
Why the heck would one lie so that they could receive communion? That doesn’t make any sense. That would be akin to lying in confession...

It happens. But more to the point, many would indeed lie in order to marry a second time in church. I know of one case in which a groom had a baptismal certificate without the notation of a previous marriage forged in order to get married in church. It was only discovered the night before the wedding.

People can also lie to themselves, truly believing that their make belief world is true. We are not always the best judges of the truth when it comes to our own self benefit. The ability at self-deception should not be underestimated.

21 posted on 04/25/2014 6:03:50 PM PDT by Petrosius
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To: Pyro7480

**“The holiness and indissolubility of Christian matrimony, often disintegrating under tremendous pressure from the secular world, must be deepened by clear doctrine and supported by the witness of committed married couples,” Pope Francis said. **

YES!!


22 posted on 04/25/2014 6:39:02 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: aquila48

**I’m getting to really detest this Pope.**

Why? For what reason? Because he is misinterpreted by almost all media?


23 posted on 04/25/2014 6:40:10 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

How come all the other popes were never misrepresented like this one?


24 posted on 04/25/2014 7:19:25 PM PDT by aquila48
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To: Pyro7480

It’s only going to get worse, because there’s no market for the Sacrament of Matrimony in real life.

I read recently that when Cdl. Bergoglio was elected Pope, he said, “I accept in a spirit of penance.” Now imagine you asked some sweet girl to marry you and she said, “I accept in a spirit of penance.” Not what you had in mind, is it?

But it’s the real deal. If your marriage isn’t purging you of sinfulness, you’re not doing it right. “Un molino, la vida nos tritura con dolor.” “Life is a mill that grinds us up with suffering.”


25 posted on 04/25/2014 7:20:52 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Celebrating the return of Piper after 16 days on the lam. Have a drink!)
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To: Salvation
Why? For what reason? Because he is misinterpreted by almost all media?

If he's being misinterpreted, why isn't he speaking out? Maybe it's because he's sneaky and means what he says.

26 posted on 04/25/2014 7:27:03 PM PDT by ebb tide
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To: Salvation

BINGO! We have a WINNER!


27 posted on 04/26/2014 3:25:26 AM PDT by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: muskah
It really has nothing to do with the couple asking for a “Catholic” wedding. It can be a Baptist, Jewish, or an Assembly of God wedding. Unless it is annulled by a Catholic marriage trial before a tribunal the individual can not marry in the church even if they have converted to Catholicism after the divorce.

This is correct only if that particular denomination as a sacrament. I know of several people that converted to Catholicism after a divorce and were allowed Catholic weddings with out a hitch. One was Baptist the other was COG.

28 posted on 04/26/2014 3:55:36 AM PDT by verga (Conservative, but leaning Libertarian.)
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To: babygene; SuziQ
I respect your opinion... However, we’ve had an annulment in our extended family, and the spouse was not even contacted. Nor were the sisters or the brother in laws. And I was the best man at their wedding... Not only that, they renewed their vows after being married 30 years.

Because some cases require a lot less investigation than others. My niece married a young man that was stoned at the time of the marriage, yes in Church at the ceremony. Four years later annulment granted almost no investigation required.

29 posted on 04/26/2014 4:00:31 AM PDT by verga (Conservative, but leaning Libertarian.)
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To: ebb tide
If she lied, it's up to the Pope to make the record straight.

Why, seriously, why does he have to set the record straight? They had a private conversation. He does not owe anyone an explanation. If she want to participate in a media circus that is up to her, he is under no obligation to.

30 posted on 04/26/2014 4:04:48 AM PDT by verga (Conservative, but leaning Libertarian.)
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To: babygene
Why the heck would one lie so that they could receive communion? That doesn’t make any sense. That would be akin to lying in confession...

Why would someone lie to have a Church wedding? If you don't view it as a sacrament why would you want to get married in a Church. A Justice of the Peace is quicker and easier.

31 posted on 04/26/2014 4:06:55 AM PDT by verga (Conservative, but leaning Libertarian.)
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To: verga

Why? Because many folks think her story is the truth. Many folks will now think that the Pope said that it’s okay for a divorced and remarried person to receive communion EVEN when their parish priest has denied them communion.

Why wouldn’t the Pope WANT to clarify to avoid that mess?

Of course, there is the chance that he actually did say all that the woman said and wants others to think this.


32 posted on 04/26/2014 5:19:23 AM PDT by piusv
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To: verga

Welcome to the world of being bashed by fellow Catholics.


33 posted on 04/26/2014 6:59:47 AM PDT by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: babygene

It didn’t stop being the Church’s job just because it was handled so badly.


34 posted on 04/26/2014 7:38:50 AM PDT by Romulus
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To: piusv
Why? Because many folks think her story is the truth. Many folks will now think that the Pope said that it’s okay for a divorced and remarried person to receive communion EVEN when their parish priest has denied them communion.

Many people think Nancy Pelousy and Joe Biteme are examples of Catholicism. Real Catholics know that they are not and know what the rules are and will follow them

Why wouldn’t the Pope WANT to clarify to avoid that mess?

Has the Church spoken before on what the correct procedure is? Does the CCC Cover it adequately? Does the Code of Canon law cover it? " Roma locuta; causa finita est,"

Of course, there is the chance that he actually did say all that the woman said and wants others to think this.

Sure absolutely there is that chance. Of course there is also a chance I will sprout wings, feathers and start flying around a circus tent, but I don't see it happening.

35 posted on 04/26/2014 7:39:59 AM PDT by verga (Conservative, but leaning Libertarian.)
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To: Biggirl
Welcome to the world of being bashed by fellow Catholics.

Since returning tot he Church 15+ years ago I have been attacked by Catholics and protestants for speaking Catholic truth. I have both my big boy pants and shoes on and will not stop just because some are CINO's.

36 posted on 04/26/2014 7:43:40 AM PDT by verga (Conservative, but leaning Libertarian.)
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To: Biggirl

Your definition of bashing is fascinating. I would argue that your calling my post to verga as bashing is actually bashing me.

But it’s ok for you to bash, huh?


37 posted on 04/26/2014 7:49:01 AM PDT by piusv
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To: verga

I guess October will prove things out. I am still open to the possibility that Francis will remain orthodox on this matter, but I won’t hold my breath. And if he does change the rules for divorced and remarried in some way, how will you respond?


38 posted on 04/26/2014 7:52:09 AM PDT by piusv
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To: Romulus

“It didn’t stop being the Church’s job just because it was handled so badly.”

So where does that leave the millions with defective marriages?

When someone doesn’t do their job, they lose it. The responsibility then falls on their boss. (that would be God)


39 posted on 04/26/2014 8:20:01 AM PDT by babygene ( .)
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To: piusv

Rather “conservative” on this matter.


40 posted on 04/26/2014 8:34:37 AM PDT by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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