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Pope emphasizes 'indissolubility of Christian matrimony' (Ecumenical)
Catholic News Agency ^ | 04/25/2104 | n/a

Posted on 04/25/2014 2:27:25 PM PDT by Pyro7480

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To: piusv
And if he does change the rules for divorced and remarried in some way, how will you respond?

Engaging in idle speculation is a waste of time and effort. Instead I will do my daily Bible reading and pray the last day of the Divine mercy novena. I believe that both of those will be more beneficial to both me and the world in general. Be sure to let me know if it does happen.

41 posted on 04/26/2014 11:39:39 AM PDT by verga (Conservative, but leaning Libertarian.)
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So where does that leave the millions with defective marriages?

Can you document these "millions" of defective marriages? You do understand that it is the couple that confects the sacrament of marriage, and the Priest acts as the witness for the Church?

42 posted on 04/26/2014 11:43:32 AM PDT by verga (Conservative, but leaning Libertarian.)
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To: Pyro7480

I agree with the Pope, and even if I didn’t, I would comply. People should really get an annulment, but from what I understand it isn’t easy.

I have dissagreed having seen friends try to maintain their marriage only to endure decades of infidelity. They married someone who lied about who they were. An annulment is not easy and takes some money. It’s not always something divorcees have.

I now realize that the requirement of annulment probably saved my vulnerable friends from getting involved with someone else too soon. I can’t imagine how some people expose their children to all the characters they date. NOT GOOD. The requirement for an annulment creates a conscience and respect for family that too few people have.

That said, their are cases of indigenous and uneducated Catholics in other countries who dont have the wherewithall to get an annulment. A divorce is traumatic expecially after enduring years of psychological abuse. I think they should give indigenous cultures more understanding, and spouses who unknowingly entered a marriage to addicts, sex addicts in particular, should have an painless annulment.


43 posted on 04/26/2014 1:33:12 PM PDT by mgist (.)
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“Can you document these “millions” of defective marriages? You do understand that it is the couple that confects the sacrament of marriage, and the Priest acts as the witness for the Church?”

Yes... In the sixties when I married, and it’s true today... probably even more so, when a person enters into Holy Matrimony with the social mindset that it is NOT a forever till death do us part deal, then it’s defective.

Allowing small print such as “as long as he is faithful”, or as long as she doesn’t “she doesn’t let herself go - ie; get fat”. When you put a qualifier on the wedding vows, the marriages are defective, and you do not have a sacramental marriage.

I chose those two issues because those are the two most common reasons; infidelity for women and fat for men, that are listed as the primary stated reason for divorce.

“I, (Bride/Groom), take you (Groom/Bride), to be my (wife/husband), to have and to hold from this day forward, for better or for worse, for richer, for poorer, in sickness and in health, to love and to cherish; from this day forward until death do us part.”

There are no exclusions in there for infidelity or getting fat. Clearly what the bride and groom promise is not inclusive... Not just in an isolated case, but in most cases.

If a couple suggested such an exclusion to their pastor before the church wedding, they would not be getting married in the church.

So yes... It is millions of defective marriages. Probably the majority. Probably yours as well if you were to be honest about it.

As for mine, I have been married for going on 46 years. It hasn’t always been easy and I have not always been a model husband or her a model wife. But we’ve endured none the less..

For those whose marriages have fallen apart, it probably wasn’t a sacramental marriage to begin with.


44 posted on 04/26/2014 10:04:20 PM PDT by babygene ( .)
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Documentation requires evidence, all you have provided is an opinion.


45 posted on 04/27/2014 4:11:33 AM PDT by verga (Conservative, but leaning Libertarian.)
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