Posted on 05/14/2014 10:02:57 PM PDT by NKP_Vet
The original writings from the Apostles themselves (the autographs) no longer exist.
This is due partly to the perishable material (papyrus) used by the writers, and partly the fact that the Roman emperors decreed the destruction of the sacred books of the Christians (Edict of Diocletian, A.D. 303).
Before translating the Bible into Latin, St. Jerome already translated into more common languages enough books to fill a library. (Saint Jerome, Maisie Ward, Sheed & Ward; A Companion to Scripture Studies, Steinmuller.)
In the year 383, he revised the Latin New Testament text in accordance with some Greek manuscripts. Between the years 390 and 406 he translated the Old Testament directly from the Hebrew, and this completed work is known today as the "Old Latin Vulgate". The work had been requested by Pope Damasus, and Copies of St. Jerome's Latin Vulgate appeared uncorrupted as late as the 11th century, with some revisions by St. Peter Damian and Lanfranc. (Catholic Encyclopedia, "Place of the Bible in the Church", C.U.A.)
Pope Benedict XV wrote about St. Jerome's translation in his 1920 encyclical, Spiritus Paraclitus, "Nor was Jerome content merely to gather up this or that teacher's words; he gathered from all quarters whatever might prove of use to him in this task. From the outset he had accumulated the best possible copies of the Bible and the best commentators on it," . . . "he corrected the Latin version of the Old Testament by the Greek; he translated afresh nearly all the books of the Old Testament from Hebrew into Latin; . . . he discussed Biblical questions with the brethren who came to him, and answered letters on Biblical questions which poured in upon him from all sides; besides all this, he was constantly refuting men who assailed Catholic doctrine and unity."
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CHRIST!
Exactly
Wrested out of context time and time again in your posts.
Only used in Scripture when two believers bring a conflict before the Church for arbitration and then one refuses to obey the decision.
Any other usage is false.
50,000 protestant denominations, all believing they are right and everyone else is wrong.............now that is some unity.
“50,000 protestant denominations, all believing they are right and everyone else is wrong.............now that is some unity”
Or all the Roman denominations believing they alone are right and condemning all other Christians.......... now that is some unity!
Luther's immediate followers (in the early 1500s) explicitly promulgated "the Bible alone as the sole rule of faith." There are no citations of Luther having promoted the theory explicitly, but it can be deduced from his other writings.
**Or all the Roman denominations**
What denominations are you talking about?
The Catholic Church is one, holy, Catholic, and apostolic.
Like THIS?
Let's try some easy math:
There are approximately 1.2 billion Catholics world wide;
If merely 1% of them 'ask' Mary for help just once each day;
that means that 12 million separate prayers are headed Mary's direction every day.
Given that there are 86,400 seconds per day... (24 hours times 60 minutes times 60 seconds)
...that means that Mary has to handle approximately 139 'requests' per second!
Purty good fer someone NOT 'devine'!
Oh NO!
HE called me a BIGOT!!
Whatever shall I do now??
Strange logic you have...
| To: vladimir998 When you stop believing in Protestant doctrines, I’ll stop calling you what you are now.
Which one should I drop first? 196 posted on 5/23/2014 5:59:36 AM by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie
Drop them in the order in which Luther apparently created them. Read some history. Learn. Then act. |
You keep saying it; and I'll keep posting it.
"They fled. The American louts fled. Indeed, concerning the fighting waged by the heroes of the Arab Socialist Baath Party yesterday, one amazing thing really is the cowardice of the American soldiers. we had not anticipated this."
I have not ignored any question you have asked here...I can't help it if you don't like the answers. It isn't "arrogance" if my answers are backed up by evidence. Arrogance is when, in spite of the evidence, you presumptuously refuse to consider it because your proclaimed all-knowing, infallible magesterium has ruled Scripture doesn't really count and you are mandated to believe whatever they say. This is how we are different. I looked into what the Bible had to say about my salvation and it plainly didn't agree with what I had been brought up to believe. I chose to believe God over man and everything I have learned and experienced since then has only confirmed God was leading me all along. I KNOW I have eternal life and will go to be with Christ in heaven when I die. Those who cannot assuredly say the same, should also examine their faith.
“The Catholic Church is one, holy, Catholic, and apostolic.”
Oh sure, that’s the clean story they promote... I’ve heard the whole thing.
Reality is quite different once someone has the intellectual freedom to examine it, as my relative the RC seminary prof. explained to me privately.
xone:
Well of course when something doesn’t fit your ideology, you saw Luther was quoted out of context. At first, when he broke from Rome, he said, Saint Jerome would condemn them, but Saint Augustine would side with him. Of course, as he read and read more of Saint Augustine, he realized that his doctrine of Justification was not found in Saint Augustine, and he eventually said, after that, he was also done with Saint Augustine. He would state that not one Scripture commentary of the Fathers was worth a darn and had the boldness to say that He and recovered the Gospel back to the Apostles. Is all that out of context as well.
He also wanted to throw out the Letter of Saint James, and even perhaps Hebrews, but his cohort talked him out of it. Was that taken out of context as well.
AMEN!
“I chose to believe God over man and everything I have learned”
Oh pardon me for daring to question the all-knowing one. I almost forget that if you had lived during the reformation and Luther had never came along that you would have orchestrated the exact same thing. You’re as brilliant as any theologian who ever lived, and that includes Benedict 16th, Augustine, Thomas Aquinas. All of those men were Catholics because they didn’t have the brilliance of Boatbums. None of them knew scripture as well as you. Sorry I didn’t recognize that a year ago. Why argue with a great theologian like you. How silly of me.
Christ
Where and what is the unity in Catholicism?
Which one is?
The Eastern Orthodox differ with Roman Catholicism on these issues:
The Holy Spirit (the filioque)
In EO - The third person of the Trinity, proceeding from the Father alone as in the original Nicene Creed. The Father sends the Spirit at the intercession of the Son. The Son is therefore an agent only in the procession of the Spirit.
In RC - 'When the Holy Spirit proceeds from the Father and the Son, He is not separated from the Father, He is not separated from the Son'.
Mary - Assumption and Immaculate conception of
EO - The Assumption is accepted and it is agreed that Mary experienced physical death, but the Immaculate conception is rejected. Orthodox belief is that the guilt of original sin is not transmitted from one generation to the next, thus obviating the need for Mary to be sinless.
RC - Both are dogmas of the church. The church has not as yet decided whether Mary actually experienced Physical death. The dogma of the Immaculate Conception states that Mary, was at conception 'preserved immaculate from all stain of original sin' and should not be confused with the virgin birth.
Pope - Authority of
EO - As the Bishop of Rome, he has a primacy of honour when Orthodox, not of jurisdiction. At present, his primacy is not effective as the papacy needs to be reformed in accordance with Orthodoxy. His authority is thus no greater or lesser than any of his fellow Bishops in the church.
RC - The Pope is the 'Vicar of Christ' i.e. the visible head of the church on earth and spiritual successor of St. Peter. He has supreme authority (including that over church councils) within Christendom (The Power of the keys).
Pope - Infallibility of
EO - Papal Infallibility is rejected. The Holy Spirit acts to guide the church into truth through (for example) ecumenical councils. This Orthodoxy recognises the first seven ecumenical councils (325-787) as being infallible.
RC - The Pope is infallible when, through the Holy Spirit, he defines a doctrine on faith and morals that is to be held by the whole church. This is a dogma and is therefore a required belief within Catholicism.
Purgatory
EO - An intermediate state between earth and heaven is recognised, but cleansing and purification occur in this life, not the next.
RC - A place of cleansing and preparation for heaven. Also a place where the punishment due to unremitted venial sins may be expiated.
I'd say these were the "biggies", but other differences also exist. These are explained
HERE :http://christianityinview.com/comparison.html
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