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Someone Please Tell Melinda Gates that She is Excommunicated
DavidLGray.INFO ^ | 05/26/2014 | David L. Gray

Posted on 05/26/2014 7:56:02 PM PDT by yosephdaviyd

In a recent interview with the Telegraph newspaper in the UK, Melinda Gates talked about why she decided to dissent from the teaching of the Catholic Church, but still seems to believe that she is a Catholic in good standing. She said:

"I’ve traveled so much all over the world. India, Bangladesh; so many counties in Africa. And I would come home and the stories would ring in my head of the women I talked to on the ground in those counties. I go out to the rural areas. I go out to slums and townships, and I would be out to talk to women about vaccines – what I was interested in for their children. And the women would say yes that is important, but what about that contraceptive tool. Why is that I used to be able to get a shot in my arm, which is the predominate form of birth control in Africa. They would say I can’t get it anymore. It’s a crisis. I can’t have another child. I already have four. I can hardly feed these four. I need this tool. Why don’t I have it?

And to me I just thought we use in our our countries. We use contraceptive widely in the UK and the United States. Those are decisions women make to plan and space the birth of children. It helps us have healthy children in our societies. And it became a rallying cry for me to answer those women’s calls. So yes, I wrestled with my faith, but I’m Catholic and I use contraceptives and I believe in them. So many Catholic women in my our country use them, and I think it’s the right thing for women all over the world."

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TOPICS: Catholic; Current Events; Moral Issues; Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: catholicchurch; contraception; heresy; melindagates

1 posted on 05/26/2014 7:56:02 PM PDT by yosephdaviyd
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To: yosephdaviyd

she’ll be receiving communion Sunday between Pelosi and Kerry.


2 posted on 05/26/2014 7:57:46 PM PDT by morphing libertarian ( On to impeachment and removal (IRS, Benghazi)!!!)
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To: yosephdaviyd

A belated welcome to FR.


3 posted on 05/26/2014 7:58:18 PM PDT by aposiopetic
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To: yosephdaviyd

Oh, there’s plenty I’d like to tell both Melinda and Bill.


4 posted on 05/26/2014 8:03:05 PM PDT by MichaelCorleone (Jesus Christ is not a religion. He's the Truth.)
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To: yosephdaviyd

Bill’s real forte’ was crooked business deals.


5 posted on 05/26/2014 8:04:03 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The more numerous the laws, the more corrupt the government." --Tacitus)
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To: yosephdaviyd

Someone should tell her that good deeds won’t get you in, lest anyone should boast.


6 posted on 05/26/2014 8:05:29 PM PDT by CorporateStepsister (I am NOT going to force a man to make my dreams come true)
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To: yosephdaviyd

‘healthy children in our society’????


7 posted on 05/26/2014 8:05:59 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (Great vid by ShorelineMike! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOZjJk6nbD4&feature=plcp)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Bill’s real forte’ was crooked business deals.

What do you mean "was"?

8 posted on 05/26/2014 8:07:06 PM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

Iow....let’s euthenize the ‘retards’. I despise Progressives.


9 posted on 05/26/2014 8:07:49 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (Great vid by ShorelineMike! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOZjJk6nbD4&feature=plcp)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Ever read the article on the guy who sold the operating system to Gates and Allen when they were starting out? What could have been..


10 posted on 05/26/2014 8:16:51 PM PDT by max americana (fired liberals in our company last election, and I laughed while they cried (true story))
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To: yosephdaviyd

“I’ve traveled so much all over the world. India, Bangladesh; so many counties in Africa.”

I know you never visit or donate in European countries. Why is that?

Looking for immortality, aren’t you?


11 posted on 05/26/2014 8:17:05 PM PDT by Finalmente
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To: morphing libertarian
re: she’ll be receiving communion Sunday between Pelosi and Kerry.

Apparently wealth and power are pretty good inoculations against being excommunicated.

12 posted on 05/26/2014 8:17:19 PM PDT by Tupelo (I feel more like Philip Nolan every day)
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To: yosephdaviyd

Nancy Pelosi and Biden meet the Pope and take communion at the Vatican, Ted Kennedy and other such Catholics receive elaborate and very public Catholic burials, and the support of most Catholic voters, I doubt this woman has been ex-communicated.


13 posted on 05/26/2014 8:21:51 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Ted Cruz and Mike Lee-both of whom sit on the Senate Judiciary Comm as Ginsberg's importance fades)
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To: yosephdaviyd; dcwusmc; Jed Eckert; Recovering Ex-hippie; KingOfVagabonds; Berlin_Freeper; ...
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Please ping me to note-worthy Pro-Life or Catholic threads, or other threads of general interest.

14 posted on 05/26/2014 8:29:00 PM PDT by narses (Matthew 7:6. He appears to have made up his mind let him live with the consequences.)
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To: yosephdaviyd

The Catholic Religion is NOT a”Cafeteria”!You don’t say:”Well,I’ll Have A Little Of This,But NONE Of That”!!!


15 posted on 05/26/2014 8:33:13 PM PDT by bandleader
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To: max americana

Committed suicide, I believe.


16 posted on 05/26/2014 8:35:42 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The more numerous the laws, the more corrupt the government." --Tacitus)
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To: yosephdaviyd

People who live fantasies cannot be easily dissuaded from their delusions. Otherwise the Democratic Party would collapse.


17 posted on 05/26/2014 8:40:22 PM PDT by allendale
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To: yosephdaviyd

Anyone know how a vaccine decreases population? To me, it would seem to work exactly opposite.


18 posted on 05/26/2014 8:42:33 PM PDT by UncleHambone ("Laughter is America's most important export." - Walt Disney)
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To: MichaelCorleone

i’d stuff them full of their deadly polio vaccine.


19 posted on 05/26/2014 8:55:46 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: ansel12

Biden, Pelosi, Kerry, Gates, etc., are all going to receive Communion until we get a Pope who is bothered by abortion.


20 posted on 05/26/2014 8:59:43 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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To: yosephdaviyd

“I can’t have another child. I already have four. I can barely feed them”.

Well then, close your legs sweetie.

CC


21 posted on 05/26/2014 9:01:32 PM PDT by Celtic Conservative (tease not the dragon for thou art crunchy when roasted and taste good with ketchup)
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To: ansel12
I'm no canon lawyer, but I think the point is that the actions themselves bring excommunication as a matter of canon law, sententiae latae, no action of another being needed.
22 posted on 05/26/2014 9:03:32 PM PDT by aposiopetic
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To: aposiopetic

Would they still be taking communion at the Vatican and receiving those high profile Catholic burials which make a hero of them to the Catholic voters of America, and the Catholic voters of the world?


23 posted on 05/26/2014 9:09:03 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Ted Cruz and Mike Lee-both of whom sit on the Senate Judiciary Comm as Ginsberg's importance fades)
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To: ansel12

I would hope not. They have put themselves on the outside. But you ask a good question.


24 posted on 05/26/2014 9:11:01 PM PDT by aposiopetic
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To: aposiopetic

The thing is they are doing those things, which indicates that they are doing just fine and that the democrat politicians are meeting a need of the Catholic leadership’s political goals.


25 posted on 05/26/2014 9:19:57 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Ted Cruz and Mike Lee-both of whom sit on the Senate Judiciary Comm as Ginsberg's importance fades)
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To: ansel12

If you think you have a read on what the “Catholic leadership’s political goals” are, feel free to state them here, with documentation.


26 posted on 05/26/2014 9:23:51 PM PDT by aposiopetic
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

If you mean Kildall, I just read he fell in a bar


27 posted on 05/26/2014 9:27:43 PM PDT by yldstrk ( My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: yosephdaviyd

What Melinda Gates should be concerned with when she visits all of these places why these people still live in poverty in this day? What is she actually doing about that?


28 posted on 05/26/2014 9:27:58 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: aposiopetic

I feel free to post what I find reasonable, something that is unreasonable is 150 years of Catholics supporting the left, and someone thinking that Rome couldn’t put a stop to that within a few short years, at anytime, just as they could end their never ending support for immigration, which makes democrat politics in America inevitable.

The first thing, would be to stop maintaining the image of being the church of the democrat party leaders, from big city Mayors on up.


29 posted on 05/26/2014 9:33:58 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Ted Cruz and Mike Lee-both of whom sit on the Senate Judiciary Comm as Ginsberg's importance fades)
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To: ansel12
I must have missed the documentation, but I won't dispute the support for immigration.

How big city mayors get chosen is beyond me, but I fail to see any anointing by Catholic leaders of the eventual winners.

30 posted on 05/26/2014 9:48:22 PM PDT by aposiopetic
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To: aposiopetic

When I tell you that I am posting you a fact, then you can request documentation, on this topic at this point, you and I only have opinions on this, in my case a lot of political and voting history knowledge as well.

Care to make a list of the most celebrity and popular Catholic politicians in America, and then look at their treatment by the Catholic church during their political careers and upon their deaths?

You don’t think that Rome could put the Catholic voters into the republican column within a few short years if they wanted to, and quit supporting the importation of millions of more pro-abortion, pro-gay marriage voters for the left, IF they wanted to?


31 posted on 05/26/2014 9:57:25 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Ted Cruz and Mike Lee-both of whom sit on the Senate Judiciary Comm as Ginsberg's importance fades)
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To: aposiopetic

I just realized, you aren’t aware of the Catholic church and immigration support in America?

You need to spend more time at FR.

We run post those threads when the Cardinals and Bishops state positions, and you can also watch the squirming on threads when the topic turns to stopping immigration, especially from Catholic Mexico, since it is the core of the immigration problem.


32 posted on 05/26/2014 10:02:13 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Ted Cruz and Mike Lee-both of whom sit on the Senate Judiciary Comm as Ginsberg's importance fades)
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To: yosephdaviyd

“We use contraceptive widely in the UK and the United States. Those are decisions women make to plan and space the birth of children.”

No we have contraceptives but most women in the US don’t use them. They use abortion as a contraceptive and that is how they “space the birth of children” if in fact after 3 to 5 abortion they can even have children.


33 posted on 05/27/2014 5:03:45 AM PDT by Morgana ( Always a bit of truth in dark humor.)
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To: UncleHambone

The only time a vaccine decreases population is when pregnancy is treated like a disease.


34 posted on 05/27/2014 5:04:24 AM PDT by rwilson99 (Please tell me how the words "shall not perish and have everlasting life" would NOT apply to Mary.)
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To: ansel12

You are the one who spoke of “the Catholic leadership’s political goals.” I am just asking what those goals are. It won’t surprise me if something having to do with immigration reform is found there.


35 posted on 05/27/2014 5:15:47 AM PDT by aposiopetic
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To: yosephdaviyd

My husband and I traveled the world. We lived in Saudi Arabia five years and saw all the countries of the middle east. Those adventures strengthened my own Catholic faith. I also felt extremely lucky and thanked God to have been born and reared in this wonderful country.


36 posted on 05/27/2014 5:38:33 AM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: CorporateStepsister

Nobody gets into heaven without good deeds. Read the Bible.


37 posted on 05/27/2014 7:08:17 AM PDT by Romulus
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To: aposiopetic
The Kennedys have always been Catholic Royalty in America. Ted for instance was the symbol of pro-abortion, pro-immigration, pro-leftist politics in America for 50 years, while at the same time America's most honored and visible Catholic.

Senator Ted Kennedy's highest profile, globally televised, Catholic Funeral.
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“However, if there is one man who can take the most credit for the 1965 act, it is John F. Kennedy. Kennedy seems to have inherited the resentment his father Joseph felt as an outsider in Boston’s WASP aristocracy. He voted against the McCarran-Walter Act of 1952, and supported various refugee acts throughout the 1950s.

In 1958 he wrote a book, A Nation of Immigrants, which attacked the quota system as illogical and without purpose, and the book served as Kennedy’s blueprint for immigration reform after he became president in 1960. In the summer of 1963, Kennedy sent Congress a proposal calling for the elimination of the national origins quota system. He wanted immigrants admitted on the basis of family reunification and needed skills, without regard to national origin.

After his assassination in November, his brother Robert took up the cause of immigration reform, calling it JFK’s legacy. In the forward to a revised edition of A Nation of Immigrants, issued in 1964 to gain support for the new law, he wrote, “I know of no cause which President Kennedy championed more warmly than the improvement of our immigration policies.” Sold as a memorial to JFK, there was very little opposition to what became known as the Immigration Act of 1965.”

38 posted on 05/27/2014 9:41:10 AM PDT by ansel12 ((Ted Cruz and Mike Lee-both of whom sit on the Senate Judiciary Comm as Ginsberg's importance fades)
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To: ansel12

And brother Ted was one of the co-sponsors in the Senate and the one who pushed it through.


39 posted on 05/28/2014 6:09:22 AM PDT by nanetteclaret (Unreconstructed "Elderly Kooky Type" Catholic Texan)
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