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Pope calls Muslims 'brothers' at Dome of the Rock
Yahoo ^ | May 26, 2014

Posted on 05/27/2014 7:17:59 AM PDT by Gamecock

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To: Fantasywriter
‘Not sure that holds a candle to catholic/protestant carnage.’

He may be talking about the carnage on the Religion Forum.

81 posted on 05/27/2014 10:54:22 AM PDT by bubbacluck (America 180)
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To: rbmillerjr; metmom; Alex Murphy; Gamecock
True; however, our brothers and sisters, I would think, are those who are in Christ -- when asked, Christ indicated the Greatest Commandment in Matthew 22: 36-40:

36 “Teacher, which is the great commandment in the Law?” 37 And he said to him, “You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind. 38 This is the great and first commandment. 39 And a second is like it: You shall love your neighbor as yourself. 40 On these two commandments depend all the Law and the Prophets.”

Those who are not in Christ are not our brothers or sisters -- thus the remark about the usual popery equating those in Christ -- Christians -- with those who are NOT in Christ -- the lost.

2 John 1: 6-11 also states:

6 And this is love, that we walk according to his commandments; this is the commandment, just as you have heard from the beginning, so that you should walk in it. 7 For many deceivers have gone out into the world, those who do not confess the coming of Jesus Christ in the flesh. Such a one is the deceiver and the antichrist. 8 Watch yourselves, so that you may not lose what we[a] have worked for, but may win a full reward. 9 Everyone who goes on ahead and does not abide in the teaching of Christ, does not have God. Whoever abides in the teaching has both the Father and the Son. 10 If anyone comes to you and does not bring this teaching, do not receive him into your house or give him any greeting, 11 for whoever greets him takes part in his wicked works.

I'd say Mohammedans do not confess the coming of Jesus Christ as the Son of God -- and I'd say they don't abide in the teaching of Christ, thereby they do not have God. And since Islam teaches other than the Gospel, are we to consider them "brothers" according the the Roman Catholic pope? According to John, we're to not even admit them to our homes or greet them lest we partake of the same wickedness.

So, you're right: Scripture cannot be ignored. Why does the pope ignore it?

Hoss

82 posted on 05/27/2014 10:57:47 AM PDT by HossB86 (Christ, and Him alone.)
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To: Salvation; Gamecock

‘salvation’ is confusing creation with adoption.

They are NOT NOT NOT the same.


83 posted on 05/27/2014 11:00:14 AM PDT by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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To: Gamecock

In that we all descend from Noah, he is correct.

If there was even a hint of “brothers with the same heavenly Father”, then he’s wrong. Christians and muslims don’t both worship God. The muslim god is a phony.


84 posted on 05/27/2014 11:04:27 AM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: liege

‘Not sure that holds a candle to catholic/protestant carnage.’

“He may be talking about the carnage on the Religion Forum.”

I hope that wasn’t the intended meaning. It would be a very bad comparison, if so.


85 posted on 05/27/2014 11:15:54 AM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: armydoc

Some would say that it is “protestant”. However, I am comparing Traditional Catholic theology to post-Vatican II theology. There is a difference. I don’t think that’s a lay issue; it’s a common sense issue. Now, is there anything I can do about it as lay person? No. All I can do is pray for the nightmare to be over.


86 posted on 05/27/2014 11:23:48 AM PDT by piusv
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To: Fantasywriter

Creepy.

I’ve seen the face, FWIW. There are mirror images from the same slab in several places that have darkened over time. Our arab guide (only ones allowed to work there) said it was an “intentional act of sabotage” — not sure how, but that’s the excuse.

Looked like a fly-man.


87 posted on 05/27/2014 11:30:14 AM PDT by TheThirdRuffian (RINOS like Romney, McCain, Christie are sure losers. No more!)
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To: F15Eagle; Gamecock; daniel1212; Iscool; editor-surveyor; boatbums; metmom
"May we respect and love one another as brothers and sisters,"---Pope Francis

The general understanding should not shock those who look into this a bit more. From EWTN site:

In the Koran, the holy name of the Blessed Virgin Mary is mentioned no less than thirty times. No other woman's name is even mentioned, not even that of Mohammed's daughter, Fatima. Among men, only Abraham, Moses, and Noah are mentioned more times than Our Lady. In the Koran, Our Blessed Mother is described as "Virgin, ever Virgin." The Islamic belief in the virginity of Mary puts to shame the heretical beliefs of those who call themselves Christian, while denying the perpetual virginity of Mary. Make no mistake about it, there is a very special relationship between the Blessed Virgin Mary and the Moslems!(OUR LADY AND ISLAM: HEAVEN’S PEACE PLAN Fr Ladis J. Cizik, Blue Army National Executive Director)

EWTN link

88 posted on 05/27/2014 11:37:41 AM PDT by redleghunter (But let your word 'yes be 'yes,' and your 'no be 'no.' Anything more than this is from the evil one.)
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To: Jewbacca

I never paid attention to your tagline until now. LOL, it’s great and so true!


89 posted on 05/27/2014 11:39:04 AM PDT by redleghunter (But let your word 'yes be 'yes,' and your 'no be 'no.' Anything more than this is from the evil one.)
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To: redleghunter; F15Eagle; Gamecock; daniel1212; Iscool; editor-surveyor; boatbums; metmom

So based on this Muzzies are the dear brothers and we Prods are slime.


91 posted on 05/27/2014 11:43:42 AM PDT by Gamecock (#BringTheAdultsBackToDC)
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To: redleghunter

I don’t know any Christian denomination that denies Mary was a virgin when she bore the baby Jesus.


92 posted on 05/27/2014 11:46:31 AM PDT by DManA
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To: Gamecock

Does the pope think the Koran was divinely inspired?

Does the church have an official position on this?

(Thanks in advance - help appreciated- honest question)


93 posted on 05/27/2014 11:46:51 AM PDT by Triple (Socialism denies people the right to the fruits of their labor, and is as abhorrent as slavery)
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To: F15Eagle
“Allah has no son”.

You are correct...

Allah has no son

94 posted on 05/27/2014 11:47:19 AM PDT by redleghunter (But let your word 'yes be 'yes,' and your 'no be 'no.' Anything more than this is from the evil one.)
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To: Triple

No idea. Considering the low view they have of Scripture it probably doesn’t matter.


95 posted on 05/27/2014 11:52:36 AM PDT by Gamecock (#BringTheAdultsBackToDC)
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To: redleghunter

I asked a Muslim once if there was anything in the Lord’s Prayer that would prevent the two of us from praying it together.

He said never, Muslims would not dare call Allah “Father”.


96 posted on 05/27/2014 11:57:04 AM PDT by DManA
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To: xzins
***then he’s wrong. Christians and muslims don’t both worship God. The muslim god is a phony.***

I guess when Frankie and Abbas get together to pray in The Vatican one of them will be wrong.

97 posted on 05/27/2014 11:59:29 AM PDT by Gamecock (#BringTheAdultsBackToDC)
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To: Gamecock

I hope this isn’t news to you.


98 posted on 05/27/2014 12:02:38 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: All

Pray for the CONVERSION of all to Christ.


99 posted on 05/27/2014 12:14:09 PM PDT by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: Farmer Dean

He needs to learn about the Holy League and the Battle of Lepanto in the sixteenth century then go on to read about Vienna in the seventeenth century. Also a bit of learning about the Islamic conquest of Constantinople might do him some good. Then let him yammer about how Mudslimes have changed.


100 posted on 05/27/2014 12:34:35 PM PDT by libstripper
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