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Different faiths, same witness: How Vatican explains prayers for peace
cns ^ | June 5, 2014 | Cindy Wooden

Posted on 06/05/2014 3:58:45 PM PDT by NYer

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1 posted on 06/05/2014 3:58:45 PM PDT by NYer
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To: Tax-chick; GregB; Berlin_Freeper; SumProVita; narses; bboop; SevenofNine; Ronaldus Magnus; tiki; ...

Ping!


2 posted on 06/05/2014 3:59:06 PM PDT by NYer ("You are a puff of smoke that appears briefly and then disappears." James 4:14)
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When leaders of different religions come together and pray for a common cause, they are not only appealing to God, they also are showing the world they believe that followers of different religions are still brothers and sisters before the one who created them.

This is "we are the world" ecumenical trash which, as the text even lets on itself, makes all religions equal under the same God "who created them." This is exactly the sin we must be avoiding, this "equality" of all religions under "one God," when they do not worship God, but idols.

This was one of the things that ticked me off so bad about the Republican National Convention. They had Mormons on stage leading prayers, making their religion equal with Christianity, and this Pope is no different in his guilt.

"Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness? And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel?"(2Co 6:14-15)

"If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed: For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds."(2Jn 1:10-11)

1Co 16:22 If any man love not the Lord Jesus Christ, let him be Anathema Maranatha.

3 posted on 06/05/2014 4:10:25 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: NYer

Funny...never saw Peter, Paul, James or any of the other apostles praying in the roman temples.


4 posted on 06/05/2014 4:11:02 PM PDT by ealgeone (obama, borderof)
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What would Pope Urban II do?


5 posted on 06/05/2014 4:30:14 PM PDT by ConservativeInPA (We need to fundamentally transform RATs lives for their lies.)
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To: NYer

IMHO, Catholics, orthodox. Jews, Lutherans, Calvinists, Unitarians largely anyway, baptists, Methodists, Copts, Adventists and many more denominations all pray to the over true (biblical) God. We have a thousand differences but we pray to the right guy. I have no problems sharing a prayer with almost any of these believers, and yes- I can then debate our differences with just as much vigor as before. Call me ecumenical if you wish, even call me mistaken. But there it is. I cannot however share a prayer session with someone who believes in a book that instructs him to kill or subjugate us. I cannot pray with someone whose “god” seeks our death and destruction. Your Holiness, please read that book before you Invite or befriend any more of its adherents. I respectfully submit that such gestures mislead the faithful into thinking that there’s no significant difference between God and Satan.


6 posted on 06/05/2014 4:36:38 PM PDT by faithhopecharity ((Brilliant, Profound Tag Line Goes Here, just as soon as I can think of one..))
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

Modernist and ecumenical trash indeed.


7 posted on 06/05/2014 4:37:17 PM PDT by piusv
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To: faithhopecharity

I don’t think Unitarians belong on that list.


8 posted on 06/05/2014 4:39:43 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: GeronL

Thanks. You’ll notice I qualified that orb a bit. Some uua’s believe in the biblical true God, some don’t. This may reflect the two different major paths that led to today’s combined Unitarian Universalist Association However that may be, I do agree with you that at least some of them probably aren’t best included. Thanks! Ps: ( at least they don’t preach to kill us , though!)


9 posted on 06/05/2014 4:43:40 PM PDT by faithhopecharity ((Brilliant, Profound Tag Line Goes Here, just as soon as I can think of one..))
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they do have that going for them. heh


10 posted on 06/05/2014 4:48:49 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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The next day, back at the Vatican, Pope Benedict told the religious leaders: "Meetings of this sort are necessarily exceptional and infrequent, yet they are a vivid expression of the fact that every day, throughout our world, people of different religious traditions live and work together in harmony."

Either interreligous group prayer is right or it is wrong. It can't be "necessarily exceptional and infrequent".

PRAYER WITH NON-CATHOLICS FORBIDDEN

Are heretics and schismatics excommunicated? Yes; they have no part in the Communion of the Saints. Catechism of the Summa

If any ecclesiastic or layman shall go into the synagogue of the Jews or to the meeting-houses of the heretics to join in prayer with them, let them be deposed and deprived of communion. If any bishop or priest or deacon shall join in prayer with heretics, let him be suspended from communion. II Council of Constantinople

That Christians and ecclesiastics should pray for Christian unity under the direction of heretics and, what is worse, according to an intention which is radically impregnated and vitiated with heresy, is absolutely impossible to tolerate! Ven. Pope Pius XI

One must neither pray nor sing psalms with heretics, and whoever shall communicate with those who are cut off from the communion of the Church, whether clergy or layman: let him be excommunicated. Council of Carthage

No one shall pray in common with heretics and schismatics. Council of Laodicea

11 posted on 06/05/2014 4:54:50 PM PDT by ebb tide
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To: ebb tide

Oh, you and your pre-Vatican II Church teaching!!


12 posted on 06/05/2014 4:56:35 PM PDT by piusv
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Yes that’s a plus compared with the “ religion of peace” ( boy if there was ever a case for False Advertising, there it is!!! ). Have a happy day, I need to check outta here fir awhile, best, fhc


13 posted on 06/05/2014 4:58:59 PM PDT by faithhopecharity ((Brilliant, Profound Tag Line Goes Here, just as soon as I can think of one..))
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This is our strength; this is our weapon.

How is it possible to square praying to false gods or encouraging others to pray to false gods with the First Commandment? To consider prayer to false gods a "weapon" is seriously irrational.

When Padre Pio felt the need of a weapon, he called for his Rosary.

14 posted on 06/05/2014 6:36:29 PM PDT by BlatherNaut
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To: ebb tide
No one shall pray in common with heretics and schismatics.

Or witch doctors or animists or Buddhists, etc. (who were all invited to pray for peace to their false gods at Assisi).

Muslims and Jews reject Christ, yet the Vicar of Christ invites them to pray with him. Are we to believe that after the prohibitions declared by previous Councils and Popes, the Holy Ghost has now changed His mind regarding the error of this type of religious co-mingling?

15 posted on 06/05/2014 6:52:03 PM PDT by BlatherNaut
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To: BlatherNaut
Did you ever think a man who did this:

Would be elected to the Chair of Peter by his peers prior to the "New Pentecost"?

16 posted on 06/05/2014 7:25:04 PM PDT by ebb tide
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Pope Francis has put a twist on the interreligious prayer gathering by inviting political leaders, Israeli President Shimon Peres and Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas, "to come to the Vatican to pray together with me for peace." The event was scheduled for June 8, the day many Christians celebrate Pentecost.
"...they have misled my people, saying, ‘Peace,’ when there is no peace..."
-- Ezekiel 13:10a

17 posted on 06/05/2014 7:35:34 PM PDT by Alex Murphy ("the defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades")
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To: ebb tide

Is that Francis? Looks like an abominable Charismatic meeting. He’s getting hands laid on him by those weirdos?


18 posted on 06/05/2014 10:22:19 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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No, this was the recent “Catholic” Charismatic meeting Francis attended and got prayed over:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xWcujx1II2w

Yuck.


19 posted on 06/06/2014 2:04:39 AM PDT by piusv
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

But, yes, that is Francis getting blessings from Protestant ministers.


20 posted on 06/06/2014 2:06:00 AM PDT by piusv
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